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maeel
post Apr 16 2007, 01:57 PM
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Arsenal was supposed to be out 1Q2007, but has been delayed due to playtesting.
I think it would be fair to publish at least the ToC or Index, best would be both.

There have been a lot of assumptions about what will be in Arsenal.
Will we see Powerarmor ?
Will there be advanced combat rules?
Will there ... (place your question here)

ToC and index could at least help us, answering these questions...
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post Apr 16 2007, 02:20 PM
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post Apr 16 2007, 02:21 PM
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Dude, just stop bitching, they'll publish it when it's done. Cut them some slack or make your own gear.
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post Apr 16 2007, 02:30 PM
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post Apr 16 2007, 02:30 PM
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Well, a preview would be good as a sign that people are really working hard and could help boost up players' confidence and, well, eagerness...

It's just marketing, like trailers in movies IMO

Cheers,

Max

Ps: I'm curious too
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post Apr 16 2007, 02:45 PM
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The index is something like the last thing they do. If it's in playtesting you can't expect them to be precognative about exactly what pages will result from the possible edits? If it's still in process of finalizing the layout then they still won't have the exact page numbers.
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post Apr 16 2007, 02:53 PM
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...will we see armoured long johns and the Zoe Heritage line again? (love that armoured Kilt, makes a Scotsman feel right secure it does)
...will the Ares Great Dragon ATGM? still be as easy to get as it was in previous editions? Every character should have at least one at chargen.
...wIll cool weapons like Gyrojets, Narcojets, and Splat Guns make a comeback?
...will there be some sort of vehicle design/customising system and will there be more stock vehicles to choose from?

--inquiring runners need to know.
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post Apr 16 2007, 02:53 PM
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hey i am not bitching, just saying Toc and Index would be ready by now, even if the pagenumbers were incorrect or missing, since it is in playtesting and finetuning...

They published Toc and Index for Core, so, why not do it for Arsenal?
I am not sayin they have to do it, just sayin that we would really appreciate it...

Plus, they have always claimed that they want to improve their PR Strategy....
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post Apr 16 2007, 03:20 PM
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When the TOC/index came out for SM it was only weeks before it was sent to the publisher. Sure it took another month or two to get from there to a real book in your hands, but I imagine they released it as soon as they could. I'd imagine they haven't even made a mockup index yet if the book isn't considered in it's final form.
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post Apr 16 2007, 03:41 PM
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somebody do something with that topic. my first thought was that there was a preview released or something!
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post Apr 16 2007, 04:27 PM
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post Apr 16 2007, 05:11 PM
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You, you... how could you put a topic title like that? Don't you know how much it hurt to realise it was just a poll?

And in regards to nathanross's comment to stop bitching... "No!" I don't tell you what to care and not care about, so don't tell us.

-K.
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:19 PM
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:27 PM
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I think what we all want from this book is obvious: pricing and weight for NERPS.
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:27 PM
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hey i am not bitching, just saying Toc and Index would be ready by now, even if the pagenumbers were incorrect or missing, since it is in playtesting and finetuning...

The ToC and the Index are two of the absolutely last things to be built. They aren't ready now.

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When the TOC/index came out for SM it was only weeks before it was sent to the publisher.

Please -- FanPro *is* the publisher. A publisher and a printer are two different things. :-)
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:32 PM
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arsenal is like the tooth fairy, it doesn't actually exst and never will. (I'm cynical from having waited sooooooo long.)
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:36 PM
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Make sure the gear tastes like chicken.

Or crow.
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:48 PM
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Please -- FanPro *is* the publisher. A publisher and a printer are two different things. :-)

Bah, Semantics.

And, hey! I was defending you!
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post Apr 16 2007, 06:54 PM
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post Apr 16 2007, 07:17 PM
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Bah, Semantics.


As threads show on a regular basis, some people still don't understand that WizKids owns Shadowrun and FanPro publishes it -- adding more confusion to that by saying that FanPro sends their works to *another* publisher when you could use the correct word [and it's even shorter to type! ;)] doesn't make sense.

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And that's appreciated, don't get me wrong.
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post Apr 16 2007, 07:36 PM
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It'll come out eventually. You can move on to other things, or you can keep going like this. Then when you get it, you can be like, "Wow, I wasted how much of my life fussing to get THIS?"
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post Apr 16 2007, 08:03 PM
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It'll come out eventually. You can move on to other things, or you can keep going like this. Then when you get it, you can be like, "Wow, I wasted how much of my life fussing to get THIS?"

Yeah, start pushing for unwired, that thread has a much longer time to complain. Seriously though....what's with the release order...oh well. As long as the content is solid I can wait. Not patiently, but I can. No...I'm probably lying, I probably can't wait.
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post Apr 16 2007, 08:55 PM
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maeel you're a dirty rotten tease. :) But a correct dirty rotten tease
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maeel
post Apr 16 2007, 10:42 PM
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sorry if i've caused someones heart to fail, my initial goal was to provoke a reply from the almighty adam, and i did, unbelievable.....

But seriously adam, why the delay, i remember a release date that said 1Quarter2007.
Would you at least agree to us compiling a list of questions and you answering them, please, please, pleeease.

Or better give some details about arsenal just for us dumpshockers... i mean, hey, we are true followers....
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post Apr 16 2007, 11:00 PM
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Yeah, start pushing for unwired, that thread has a much longer time to complain. Seriously though....what's with the release order...oh well. As long as the content is solid I can wait. Not patiently, but I can. No...I'm probably lying, I probably can't wait.

I've got an order in with Amazon and don't even think about it until I get the next notice asking if I still want to keep the item on order. Had 3 or 4 of those now.
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