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post May 11 2007, 04:36 PM
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This was a reply to the Luddite-E-ninja thread, but I realised it was its own subject.

Isn't the whole concept of an office a little archaic? There wont be any paper files or other bits and pieces lying around that are needed for your work - everything will be electronic and thus non-location specific. Likewise with the non-location based structure of the Matrix, there's no reason why a "node" isn't connected to directly by workers all around the world and the same IC will guard worker A in his home in Seattle and worker B in his flat in Tokyo. And as to human interaction - how many companies can't afford 150 :nuyen: for a SIM module and trodes? Bang - virtual office.

In short, I'm having trouble justifying a big office.
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- knasser   Offices.   May 11 2007, 04:36 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   For most systems, you're right, they might not...   May 11 2007, 04:44 PM
- - odinson   I would wager that with 2 complete crashes, most c...   May 11 2007, 04:54 PM
- - dionysus   I think humans are creatures of habit, and 63 year...   May 11 2007, 05:02 PM
- - Jack Kain   Not to mention they might not want information to ...   May 11 2007, 05:05 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) For most systems, you're rig...   May 11 2007, 05:09 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (dionysus) I think humans are creatures of h...   May 11 2007, 05:15 PM
- - Moon-Hawk   Are you saying that a company wouldn't do some...   May 11 2007, 05:18 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Jack Kain) Not to mention they might not wa...   May 11 2007, 05:30 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   ...like the MetaTech Village that I worked up for ...   May 11 2007, 05:41 PM
- - Jack Kain   QUOTE (hobgoblin) QUOTE (Jack Kain @ May 11 2...   May 11 2007, 05:58 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Jack Kain) Not to mention they might not wa...   May 11 2007, 05:59 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   QUOTE workers who have to schlep to an office ever...   May 11 2007, 06:03 PM
- - hobgoblin   one thing that comes to mind: there is no "on...   May 11 2007, 06:08 PM
- - Cheops   QUOTE (knasser) That commuting time is wasted time...   May 11 2007, 06:18 PM
- - 2bit   QUOTE (knasser) Now you could have the whole build...   May 11 2007, 06:32 PM
- - Backgammon   QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0) Having worked in these s...   May 11 2007, 07:58 PM
- - knasser   EDIT: Backgammon beat me to some of what I was goi...   May 11 2007, 08:00 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Backgammon) There is no screen! You jac...   May 11 2007, 08:05 PM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (knasser) QUOTE (Backgammon @ May 11 20...   May 11 2007, 08:08 PM
- - hobgoblin   heh, ninja trained corp inspection service   May 11 2007, 08:10 PM
- - Cheops   QUOTE (knasser) As to the requirement to have pa...   May 11 2007, 08:49 PM
- - Jack Kain   In todays world. Many offices don't actually a...   May 11 2007, 09:00 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE Telecommuting from home sounds like this war...   May 11 2007, 09:37 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Cheops)I think however that I'm going t...   May 11 2007, 09:40 PM
- - fistandantilus3.0   Backgammon makes a good point on VR telecommuting....   May 11 2007, 09:50 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Cheops) Again you are wrong. The reason pe...   May 11 2007, 09:54 PM
- - Spike   A huge one I think you are missing, Knasser, is to...   May 11 2007, 10:46 PM
- - Cheops   QUOTE (knasser) QUOTE (Cheops @ May 11 2007, ...   May 11 2007, 10:52 PM
- - silentmaster101   although a corperate hq is extraterritorial thus c...   May 11 2007, 11:22 PM
- - Thane36425   Of course they still have offices. Today, with the...   May 12 2007, 12:16 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Cheops) Ahhh...now I understand you. You ...   May 12 2007, 12:43 AM
- - Jaid   there's more than just the cost of transportat...   May 12 2007, 12:48 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Jaid) even a commute as short as 10 minutes...   May 12 2007, 12:57 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (knasser) Though that said, I find it hard t...   May 12 2007, 03:29 AM
- - mfb   dude, there is widely-available graphical software...   May 12 2007, 03:34 AM
- - hobgoblin   hell, do they not make pre-signed letters these da...   May 12 2007, 04:26 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb) dude, there is widely-available graphi...   May 12 2007, 07:22 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (kzt) QUOTE (knasser @ May 11 2007, 01:...   May 12 2007, 07:57 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser) Margaret Atwood did a book signing...   May 12 2007, 08:11 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (mfb @ May 1...   May 12 2007, 08:13 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)in most cases where a forged signature ...   May 12 2007, 08:20 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Fistandantilus3.0)Second problem is securit...   May 12 2007, 08:27 AM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (knasser @ M...   May 12 2007, 08:31 AM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ May 12 2007, 03:2...   May 12 2007, 08:38 AM
- - Blade   I also wondered why people bothered to go to their...   May 12 2007, 09:31 AM
- - Jaid   QUOTE (knasser @ May 12 2007, 02:57 AM) Marga...   May 12 2007, 11:24 AM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser)So... you agree that signatures are...   May 12 2007, 11:58 AM
- - knasser   Rotbart - have you got something in your eye? Lo...   May 12 2007, 12:26 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser)The entire point of signatures is t...   May 12 2007, 12:34 PM
- - ornot   I don't think the office will have gone entire...   May 12 2007, 12:35 PM
- - Blade   Yes, it's more cyberpunk this way (in one of m...   May 12 2007, 01:05 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)..you mean, like on your...   May 12 2007, 01:11 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (knasser)The enti...   May 12 2007, 01:29 PM
- - Jaid   any responses to the physical security aspect thou...   May 12 2007, 01:33 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)they can easily learn to fake the signa...   May 12 2007, 01:36 PM
- - Blade   The physical security isn't important for most...   May 12 2007, 01:40 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Jaid) any responses to the physical securit...   May 12 2007, 01:40 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)'Easily' is a bi...   May 12 2007, 01:44 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser)Earlier you claimed that electronic...   May 12 2007, 01:51 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) The point about securit...   May 12 2007, 01:57 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb)it really isn't. anybody can do it,...   May 12 2007, 02:00 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser)No, that is the point. We're ta...   May 12 2007, 02:06 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (knasser)Did you ...   May 12 2007, 02:09 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ May 12 2007, 02:0...   May 12 2007, 02:18 PM
- - Demon_Bob   If I can't make my workers come into the offic...   May 12 2007, 02:22 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser)The same firewall and IC that would...   May 12 2007, 02:23 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser)It is not a reliable means of authe...   May 12 2007, 02:27 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Demon_Bob) If I can't make my workers c...   May 12 2007, 02:28 PM
- - knasser   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig @ May 12 2007, 02:2...   May 12 2007, 02:48 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (knasser)Firstly, you can have as much secur...   May 12 2007, 02:59 PM
- - mfb   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)Most people are quite......   May 12 2007, 03:16 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (mfb) making a passable forged signature is ...   May 12 2007, 03:20 PM
- - mfb   yeah, humans do seem to get a kick out of fooling ...   May 12 2007, 04:09 PM
- - odinson   QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig)'Easily...   May 12 2007, 04:13 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Yeah, but that doesn't really help as soon as ...   May 12 2007, 05:14 PM
- - Cheops   My roommate just came up with the perfect example ...   May 12 2007, 05:51 PM
- - Eryk the Red   I simply cannot imagine offices not existing, thou...   May 12 2007, 06:01 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Cheops) He does all his work on his laptop....   May 12 2007, 06:40 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   And there would be the problem of SR since SR1... ...   May 12 2007, 06:52 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) And there would be the ...   May 12 2007, 07:10 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) And there would be the ...   May 12 2007, 07:28 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   QUOTE (hobgoblin) QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig ...   May 12 2007, 07:31 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (Rotbart van Dainig) QUOTE (hobgoblin ...   May 12 2007, 08:01 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   MitM only has explicit rules for tapping into conn...   May 12 2007, 08:09 PM
- - hobgoblin   so that makes one wonder, does the traffic of the ...   May 12 2007, 10:03 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (hobgoblin) and the moment you introduce tha...   May 12 2007, 10:06 PM
- - Rotbart van Dainig   Because it removes the dynamic, and makes the othe...   May 12 2007, 10:25 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (kzt) QUOTE (hobgoblin @ May 12 2007, 1...   May 12 2007, 11:01 PM
- - djinni   QUOTE (knasser) Isn't the whole concept of an ...   May 12 2007, 11:30 PM
- - Meriss   A quick thought on signatures. If the Japancorps a...   May 13 2007, 04:06 AM
- - stevebugge   QUOTE (Moon-Hawk) Are you saying that a company wo...   May 14 2007, 04:24 PM
- - hobgoblin   QUOTE (stevebugge) QUOTE (Moon-Hawk @ May 11 ...   May 14 2007, 05:26 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (hobgoblin)thing is, good old gibson had no ...   May 15 2007, 03:46 AM
- - Doomclown   QUOTE (Cheops) For all of us plebs who don't k...   May 17 2007, 02:26 AM
- - Catharz Godfoot   Efficient systems for corporate data creation and ...   May 17 2007, 03:41 AM
- - Smilin_Jack   I was flippin through my copy of the SSG and I not...   May 17 2007, 04:23 AM
- - hobgoblin   hmm, im not sure i would park technical support un...   May 17 2007, 05:06 PM
- - Kyoto Kid   QUOTE (knasser)QUOTE (Jaid @ May 12 2007, 12:...   May 17 2007, 05:46 PM
- - Cheops   QUOTE (hobgoblin) hmm, im not sure i would park te...   May 20 2007, 04:54 PM
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