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 May 30 2007, 07:28 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669  |
Ally Spirits are given the choice of either Materialization or of Inhabitation. Is this choice independent of the creating magican's tradition? What about Possession - would it be a suitable alternative to Materialization/Inhabitation?
Should the spirit of a possession tradition magician be allowed to take Materialzation from Step 2 (Choose Forms) and then also pick up Possession in Step 3 (Choose Powers)? |
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May 30 2007, 07:45 PM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
The choice of Materialisation or Inhabitation is independent of the magician's tradition. However, spirits conjured by Possession traditions substitute Possession for Materialisation in their power list
Therefore a materialisation tradition can choose between Materialisation and Inhabitation whilst a possession tradition can choose between Possession and Inhabitation. |
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May 30 2007, 08:15 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Note that if you get a "True Form" Inhabitation, your spirit ends up as a materializer anyway. Possession Traditions have just aa few more options for their Ally Spirits than Materializing Traditions do.
-Frank |
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May 30 2007, 08:19 PM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
That's a very good point. I'd forgotten that. Have your new ally possess a pet mouse and you've got yourself a loophole. Well unless you critically glitch and win the Most Embarrasing Familiar of the Year Award. :D |
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May 30 2007, 08:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 12-April 06 Member No.: 8,455 |
I'd think you'd want to finagle things to get a materializing ally most of the time. Having your ally stuck in the physical world just reduces your options.
Biggest exception I can see is for a hacker ally with built-in commlink (materials have to use glasses and gloves), or a plasteel bodyguard for the extra armor over and above the INW. I could see something like that for a *second* ally. |
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May 30 2007, 09:23 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
Mice and Rats as Familiars have a long and glorious history... Well, at least they have appeared in fantasy fiction in a few varieties... |
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May 30 2007, 09:52 PM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Heh. I'm sure that will be great consolation to the player who just invested a big chunk of karma in the hopes of getting a little genie that can appear, dissappear and astrally zip all over the city.... and ended up with a hybrid merge gerbil with Body 2 and can only fly if you throw it! :D :rotfl: :P |
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May 30 2007, 10:23 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
There's a lot to be said for a Flesh Form rat. It's rat sized, it has aura masking, and it has a strength of 6 or so. Definitely a good thing to send on recon.
-Frank |
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May 30 2007, 10:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 524 Joined: 12-April 06 Member No.: 8,455 |
HERE I COME, TO SAVE THE DAY!
*runs* |
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May 31 2007, 04:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 28-May 03 From: Orlando Member No.: 4,644 |
DangerMouse!!
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May 31 2007, 05:04 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,159 Joined: 12-April 07 From: Ork Underground Member No.: 11,440 |
Don't forget little yellow birdys. :D
"I tink I saw a putty cat" |
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May 31 2007, 05:43 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
On a serious note, can a Magician astrally project if his body is possessed. In effect, he leaves the body behind to the Spirit. Could he do this if he has Channeling and conjured the possessing spirit himself? It should be legal to astrally project first and then have the spirit enter the body*, but I'm asking if you can get out once the Possession is in place.
*For best results, have the Spirit simply delay it's actions to Possess the body as soon as the Magican projects. |
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May 31 2007, 02:32 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Ooh, good question. I have no official answer, but my knee-jerk response is to say 'yes', however the posessing spirit can, at it's option, attempt to stop you and force some kind of opposed test. Say......Magic + Willpower vs. Force x 2? This is the first thing that springs from my mind, if a player were to ambush me with this. |
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May 31 2007, 11:04 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
i would say no. once you are possessed, you are no longer in control. you don't make the decisions any more.
however, as was noted, a spirit could certainly possess your empty body if you were to project. |
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Jun 1 2007, 04:30 PM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Not necessarily. The section on shedim in Street Magic specifically states that one of the scary things about shedim is that they can possess a mage's body while he is out. That doesn't mean that other spirits can't too, it just suggests that Shedim might be a special case. There are game implications if every force 1 spirit can zip around looking for empty mage bodies. Not sure if that's a plus or minus, though. |
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Jun 1 2007, 06:56 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
An unoccupied body is still a body, there's no guaranty that a Force 1 spirit can take it over.
-Frank |
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Jun 1 2007, 07:10 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,838 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,669 |
Correct. Even unoccupied, it still gets a resistance roll. If dead, then it has an object resistance threshold. For a Force 1 Spirit - like a Watcher - to be successful, it would likely need the vessel to be prepared (it gives the Spirit a +6 bonus).
The text on page 95 is suggestive that the body of a projecting Magician may count as a prepared vessel even without special preparations. Otherwise there is no need to point out that it is an 'available vessel' since nearly anything would count as available for Possession. |
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