Down in the Gutter: OOC, The Nuts and Bolts of Staying Alive Options

[Dantic]

Yep. That about covers it. I was looking at the turf map, but a couple of the colors are close enough that I wanted to be sure.

How about this logo logo, in black and orange?

Black and Orange is most likely a bad idea, unless you Want to fight the Halloweenies, er weeners. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif)

I'd suggest Black and Red, some raven species have red feathers on their wings or tails. I like the simple head design for a tag, maybe black head with red eyes, of course just the word ravens works too, though many won't be able to read it according ot the rules, but most gangers would get the idea.

I kind of like the pheonix bird design as an idea for a gang tattoo. (October Pheonix? Rising from the ashes? Too late...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

[Slipshade]

I was kinda of figuring on October Ravens written on a pair of black wings, but really I was thinking more of what Baby would tag and not so much logo. I would guess that as long as we stay consistent with a Raven theme and whatever color scheme we come up with, we are good. No reason to have an "official" logo as long as we are close. I would think the colors are the most important.

[WinterRat1]

Is anyone waiting on me for anything?

[Vegas]

Is anyone waiting on me for anything?

Not me, I'm just waiting for time to pass IC. A LOT of time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[adamu]

Is anyone waiting on me for anything?

Well, this is only a guess as to why others aren't posting much, but it is definitely why I'm not posting a lot more:

I think we all understand that we have to be largely self-directed in this game, and I reckon we are totally cool with that.

On the other hand, however, the campaign rules in the wiki are clear that (and I think this is a basic rule for forum games) anything non-fluff we are only to post the initiation of the action, and wait to continue until we get a resolution from you.

Well, seems to me that the bulk of us are currently on what pretty much amounts to a combat patrol through hostile territory. You even specified that our fates largely depended on exactly what streets we dared tread upon.

So Legion gave an order pointing us back north to the HQ, and I posted that Grack follows the group. I am not really sure any of us feel clear to post until we find out if we make it back home safely.

Gimme a green light and I got lists o' fun stuff for Our Hero to get up to!

[Bearclaw]

That about covers me. We're headed back to the new house, and hoping to sweep up a couple more members on the way. If Eyeless would ping me, we'd get him in.

[WinterRat1]

On the other hand, however, the campaign rules in the wiki are clear that (and I think this is a basic rule for forum games) anything non-fluff we are only to post the initiation of the action, and wait to continue until we get a resolution from you.

Well, seems to me that the bulk of us are currently on what pretty much amounts to a combat patrol through hostile territory. You even specified that our fates largely depended on exactly what streets we dared tread upon.

So Legion gave an order pointing us back north to the HQ, and I posted that Grack follows the group. I am not really sure any of us feel clear to post until we find out if we make it back home safely.

You raise a valid point, except for one small detail: No one is in Hostile Territory.

The most recent IC posts have the following information:

Bearclaw and Thumper have this as their location: 00:45:10, Sunday, November 2nd - Skirting the North Border of the Black Plague's turf along NE 140th St, slightly East of the intersection of NE 140th St. & 124th Ave NE

Meriss and Grendel have this as their location: 00:45:55, Sunday, November 2nd - Just south of Kirkland City Park, between 128th Ave NE and NE 142nd Ln

Reading the RL chronological progression of the posts, the implication to me is that you guys started skirting the Black Plague’s turf, then started walking back. You never actually left the old Hammerpack turf, and no one at any point in time indicated a serious (or even a tentative) foray into actual Black Plague turf proper.

The only possible exception to this is Grack, in which case he’d be maybe one block into Black Plague turf, and I already specified the north part of their turf is oddly quiet, and you guys didn’t really detect any hostiles in the area. At least, that’s what your Detect Enemies spell said. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif) :

The general gameplan in the OOC thread was to sit back and watch the Night Hunters and Black Plague rumble, then swoop in to take out the survivors. Since that didn’t happen, the group never made a move. It has since been decided to head back to the new Gang HQ.

So from where I was sitting, you guys were parked on the Hammerpack/October Ravens side of the border, watched for a bit, chatted and discussed some plans and potential new members, then started to turn around and head home.

As far as I’m concerned, everyone is completely clear to post, since no one has gone anywhere/done anything that might require my intervention.

That was my interpretation of the situation, if anyone has a different one please feel free to let me know. Unless I’m mistaken and someone points it out, the above explanation is the situation as it stands, which means everyone is free to post normally.

Let me know if anyone has any questions, comments, or needs something from me. Hope that clears up the confusion and helps get things moving again! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[adamu]

Excellent - I am totally happy to stand corrected!

Green-lit for a safe return to base, you will see a big IC from me within 24!

[Spark]

currently waiting on ink to get back to me so i can mobilize. Not sure if i can just include that in my post or not.

[WinterRat1]

currently waiting on ink to get back to me so i can mobilize. Not sure if i can just include that in my post or not.

Spark – Go ahead and just include it in your post. You’ve waited long enough (thank you again for your patience) and I want to keep you involved and moving.

Meriss has been notified multiple times that you’re waiting on him, and his last IC post still failed to adequately take that into account. So I’m invoking GM fiat and ruling Ink does contact you back, and you are free to include it in your next IC post.

All - Has anyone heard anything from Neuntoter, Eyeless Blond, or Whipstitch? I haven’t seen any of them do anything lately in DITG.

[adamu]

Well, safely back at the ranch!

Hmmm - wonder what the statute of limitations is on critical glitches....

[WinterRat1]

Hmmm - wonder what the statute of limitations is on critical glitches....

I can help you with that.

For those particular critical glitches, there is no statute of limitations, largely because Grack isn't experienced enough to know A) that he critical glitched and B) what he should/should not have expected from his magic in the first place. Consequently, I'll just hold on to those until a suitably entertaining moment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

Life's tough down here, after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif)

[Meriss]

@Winter&Spark: Mea culpa. I was going to post IC yesterday and things just kinda slid away from me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarrassed.gif)

[adamu]

I can help you with that.

For those particular critical glitches, there is no statute of limitations, largely because Grack isn't experienced enough to know A) that he critical glitched and B) what he should/should not have expected from his magic in the first place. Consequently, I'll just hold on to those until a suitably entertaining moment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

Life's tough down here, after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ork.gif)

Zoinks! A harsh sentence indeed!

I was prepared to take my licks, but yeeesh, to have those things hanging over my head indefinitely, when all I had to gain from casting the dice was a temporally localized benefit - kinda seems like the potential penalty becomes, literally, infinitely worse than the potential gain from any die roll.

Could I humbly and cravenly dicker you down to ONE eternal critical glitch to worry about???

[WinterRat1]

Wait, you had TWO critical glitch rolls? I thought you only had one in the first place.

Well then, my day just got a whole lot better…(IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

Adamu -

[ Spoiler ]

I’m just messing with you, I was only going to hold the Detect Enemies critical glitch in reserve, under the above logic that Grack doesn’t know what to expect from his magic, so he doesn’t know how to tell when it’s working right or wrong, thus he’ll be surprised at some point down the road.

I couldn’t think of anything to do with the critical glitch on the drain roll, other than just hitting you with an extra box of stun, which was pretty immaterial and more importantly, not very fun given the circumstances, so I decided to just let it pass.

So yes, you only have ONE critical glitch roll hanging over your head. See what a nice GM I am? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[adamu]

Winter - as always, I kneel in submission to your awesome benevolence!

[Slipshade]

DitG

Just wanted to say it has been a lot of fun reading your posts. It is nice to catch a break in the action with Baby down for a spell and just enjoy watching things unfold. Good job everyone!

Slip

[Bearclaw]

Rico's probably going to get his ass kicked. He's a lot more dangerous with his claws than with his fist. But WTF, there hasn't been any combat yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[pragma]

I've got one more IC put up. Thumper, perhaps surprisingly, isn't hell bent on fighting. Also, I imagine grendel will want to weigh in before the characters start throwing down. Legion has had a while to shout over us if he wanted.

Any rate, Thumper is counting two seconds in his head then he's going to rush Rico if Rico doesn't show signs of backing down. You could definitely get the jump on Thumper if you attacked him while he was talking, I'm prepared to edit my post for that eventuality ... also to roll for surprise.

Don't know if WR wants to weigh in or not, I figure we can start throwing dice at eachother tomorrow if he doesn't. I think it will be a lot of fun, thanks for playing along, Bearclaw. May the best ork win ...

[Spark]

sry ive been gone for a bit, works been kicking my ass lately (i work at starbucks and its the frappucino madness season + were opening a new store across the road). Ill get a post up soon.

[WinterRat1]

WR 1 is now weighing in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For time's sake, and to keep the story moving along, I prefer pragma and Bearclaw resolve the fight purely through role-playing, a la Doc and Grack's fight earlier. Discuss the details in the OOC thread or via PM and then go ahead and IC post as appropriate.

If you can't agree on how the fight should play out (e.g. Pragma thinks Thumper should beat the living crap out of Rico and Bearclaw disagrees), then by all means throw down with the dice. Remember, no killing. Beyond that, you have a reasonable amount of leeway. If it doubt, ask me first, and then there will be no problems.

For example, if Rico is getting the worst of it and decides to pop the claws, I don't care if he hits and does physical damage, nor do I care if Thumper pulls out the rebar and smashes him over the head, also doing physical damage. After all, hurting each other with Physical damage really only hurts yourselves and the gang, and ultimately since your characters are still alive no one's feelings should be hurt. But be sure to not kill one another, or else there's going to be problems. Remember, you can choose to withhold successes and I expect you to do so to avoid killing each other. If you aren't sure how many successes you need to withhold (if you got a great roll or your opponent is already badly hurt), just make a note of it and I will assist you.

Let me know if you have any questions, otherwise I'm looking forward to watching this fight play out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bearclaw]

Rico doesn't really want to fight. That's not what he's good at. But he figures this guy is going to keep riding him til it happens anyway, so may as well get it over with. Gang life and prison life work the same way in a lot of cases. Even getting your ass kicked will get you respect. Especially when there are two obvious tough guys in the gang, and Rico is willing to tangle with one of them (and no one wants anything to do with the top dog).
It works for Thumper too, becuase Rico is pretty big and scary looking. Taking Rico down will solidify his position.

Rico's giving up a lot. Thumper has a small edge in speed and a big one in skill (those two +1's become huge when everyone's skill is so low), as well as a whole extra inintiative pass.
Rico's got a bigger body. And Rico won't use his claws unless he thinks he's in real danger. He's taken an ass kicking before.
I figure Rico gets a couple of shots in before Thumper gets ahold of him, then it's a couple more rounds of Rico trying to get loose before Thumper gets an arm bar or a choke hold and Rico quits. If Rico tries to quit and Thumper doesn't let him, Rico will pop his spurs and it's a whole different fight.

I'll leave it to Pragma's or Winter Rat's better writing skills to detail the actual fight if everyone agree's with the basic flow of the fight. Rico doesn't get completely humiliated, but has to quit or get killed at the end.

[WinterRat1]

My opinion on how the fight plays out is basically irrelevant, it's whatever you two (Pragma and Bearclaw) agree on that goes. I laid down the one line that cannot be crossed: No one gets killed. Beyond that, what the ending is like and how it gets there is for you two to hammer out, with the dice deciding for you if you two can't agree.

As for the IC posts, don't worry about writing skills, just go ahead and post back and forth with one another until the situation is resolved. Most of the fun of PBP is reading different peoples' writing styles and perceptions of the same situation, after all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[pragma]

@Bearclaw
I'm agree with your assessment of the situation and I'm fine with your criterion on the IC. I figure we can collaborate to get a good fight that we agree on, I'll send you a PM about it probably tomorrow morning.

[Meriss]

Whew, finally got a chance to post. Work has been a royal pain. On Monday literally. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Caught a break today, so here we are. Rumble on!