Down in the Gutter: OOC, The Nuts and Bolts of Staying Alive Options

[Abbandon]

Pheonix and Dark Pheonix dont roll off the tongue very well, plus its sounds fairly magical not to mention its singular. Firebirds on the other hand...thats plural, sounds less magical(maybe they have a new upated firebird car rolling the streets in 2070), and you still get the cool iconography. Torching stuff and firebombs could be our signature message to leave.

Thats just my thougts on the matter.

[Fresno Bob]

What about The Octoberists?

Because all the gang members got forced out of their gang in October?

[adamu]

Well, I'm with Abbandon on the Phoenix thing - it is a truly cool name, but the thing is most gang names work best as plural nouns. And Phoenix to Phoenixes is a staggering loss of coolness in just two letters.

Firebirds is cool, and so is Octoberists if anyone can pronounce it, but I would be more inclined to vote for something sort of badass-sounding....

Here's my thought - October Ravens. Or October Crows. It's got Voorhees' angle, and aren't ravens a sort of harbinger of death and destruction in a lot of traditions (including the Norse tradition hinted at in Legion's background)?

And while in its full form it is distinctive and has significance, in common use it would be shortened to just Ravens/Crows.

Just brainstorming.

[grendel]

October Ravens sounds good. We could use something similar to the Roman Eagle Standard as a tag. Ranks in the gang could go along the lines of Rooks/Crows/Ravens from lowest to highest. Plus any gathering of crows is called a murder of crows, which we could work into the gang lexicon as well.

I'm against Firebirds because the movie was such drek. :)

[Unarmed]

Yeah, I'm liking the October Ravens too, it's a good combination of ideas. I did like Dark Phoenix too, but Phoenix really doesn't roll off the tongue very well, heh.

[rob]

Erm, Dark Phoenix sounds quite goth-rock. Octoberists is too emo. October Ravens, gets cooler. I'm a big fan of buzzards. I'd suggest that buzzards are much cooler than ravens.

Personally, for gang names, I was thinking about the first thing that would occur to my mind in a similar situation, which is "Fuck all yall, I ain't dead yet." Some variation on that theme. Examples: 1) Kingsgate Immortals. Or, more gang styled, less Persian: 2) Bulletproof Kings. 3) NDY Crew.

[Unarmed]

I just want to chime in and say that I like the bulletproof kings, too.

[Meriss]

Hey rob nice names :D How's about the Bulletproof Ravens?

[Fresno Bob]

Winter

MisterJuan hasn't made a reply yet, so its on me to move Aziz's part in the story along.

Buuuut, I'm unsure of what could be done in this situation, as Aziz is stuck in a hospital bed.

[Abbandon]

Ghosts of October
Kingsgate Immortals
Sleeping Dragons

[pragma]

Again combining ideas: Bulletproof Buzzards
- I'm armed to the fucking teeth with alliteration.

[grendel]

I am against any name with buzzard in it. Buzzards do not inspire fear or respect. They're carrion birds. They lack the moral fortitude to attack their prey, merely waiting for it to die on its own or picking over the remains left by more skillful predators.

How do we want to run this process though? Should we put up a poll? Or just list the top 5 and have people vote via post on the OOC thread?

The five most attractive to me are:

October Ravens
Bulletproof Kings
NDY Crew
Ghosts of October (October Ghosts?)
Kingsgate Immortals

[Meriss]

@pragma: good to have you back homes.

@Grendel: Hmm, I'll vote for October Ravens. I would also like to throw Winter Ravens into the mix. :D I'm a shit disturber.

[pragma]

@Meriss

Thanks, sorry I've been so slow getting an IC up.

@grendel et. al.

While there is some value to coming to an OOC concensus on the appropriate gang name, it might be fun to have the gang leader make an authoritarian decision and see how the gangers react. Bypassing OOC discussion and making a unilateral IC decision could be a cool way to test gang dynamics.

Just my 2 :nuyen: though. Someone who wants to avoid IC contention could doubtless make a strong case that this is a bad idea.

[Lindt]

Well the question has just been brought to attention on the IC thread.

And for my money, I like Ghosts of October.

[Fresno Bob]

Ghosts of October sounds too much like a movie title to me.

I'll throw down on some October Ravens.

[rob]

If we do the thing IC, my character would certainly like to throw his opinion in; otherwise, he'll do so after the decision is made in an annoying way. This will, of course, require him to get out of the building he is currently pinned in.

@Grendel - ravens are carrion birds too. But, c'est la vie, they certainly get a better rep among the literati...

[WinterRat1]

More thorough response/update from me later today, but lest I miss out on the voting for the new gang name, here's my .02 :nuyen: -

October Ravens - I like this one, the logic behind it is good and more importantly, it sounds cool. Nothing bad about this one.

Bulletproof Kings - I like this one as well, sounds cool and has good logic, but I don't like the 'bulletproof' part as much because lots of the violence was hand to hand. I can already hear the rival gang taunts as they beat one of you down, 'So what, you're bulletproof but you can get the crap beaten out of you with a bat? Guess you ain't batproof!'

NDY Crew - No one will know what 'NDY' stands for unless you tell them. If you have to explain your gang name, that ain't cool.

You: 'We're the NDY Crew, you best respect!'

Them: 'Uh, WTF does that mean?'

You: 'Not Dead Yet Crew!'

Them: 'Better think of a new name, cause it won't be applicable by the time we're through with you!' (And yes, I realize the word 'applicable' might have too many syllables for the average ganger, but you get the idea)

Ghosts of October (October Ghosts?) - Makes you guys sound like you're pathetic, whining and moaning dead spirits out to haunt the living and get revenge. Not exactly an image to inspire fear. Plus, 'ghosts' implies you already died once and just happen to still be here. Again, not exactly awe-inspiring.

Kingsgate Immortals - Very cool. Same impact/message as the 'Bulletproof Kings' without the downside, and it's more all encompassing. Definitely sends that whole 'you can't stop us, we'll always be here!' message.

Overall, for what it's worth, I vote for either Kingsgate Immortals or October Ravens, in that order.

And to keep this story moving along:

Voorhees -

[adamu]

IC I am all for Legion just deciding - he doesn't seem like the leadership by committee type!

But even if we all form a nice loving consensus, he can still do that IC, obviously, so I see no conflict between us all discussing the name, and then IC Legion just unilaterally deciding it.

Me, my order of preference is October Ravens, followed by several of rob's very cool-sounding names.

Actually, delete the ghosts one, and my personal, ranked preference list is the same as grendel's.

[WinterRat1]

Status Update -

All right everyone, I tried to put this off as long as possible, but the reality of buying a new place and moving into it, my wedding in three weeks, and job and church stuff kicking into high gear requires I dial down my DSF involvement for the next few weeks.

I'll be low access from now until the beginning of October. Game is still on, and I'll be posting as frequently as I can as fast as I can, but I'm letting you all know in advance response will probably be slow. I have too many things that are demanding my attention right now and they just have to get done.

No worries, game is still on, and I will be continuing to post, just slowly until real life settles down and I can get back up to full speed. Thanks for your patience and understanding, and I'll get back up to full capacity as soon as possible!

[Meriss]

@Winter: Man sounds like you have one heck of a September coming up! Stay strong, and try and have fun now and then!

[Vegas]

Winter

Sorry it took forever, but rolls are up for Nevada and CT 5.

Ugh. Life sucks balls right now.

[Unarmed]

@Adamu

How are we going to get out of this without Grack killing Doc? I kinda think that at this point he'd do exactly that. =)

I'm assuming you have a good plan, and I don't want you to ruin it and spill the beans, but Doc's treading a fine line, heh.

[adamu]

[Lindt]

Man, cats and dogs.

Negotiation test to try and mediate the incoming throw down.
06 04 04 03 02 02, so 3 hits.

And in case you missed it Adamu, Cerri is referring to Grack. Gotta work on my Or'zit.