 Great Form Power: Endowment, (Or: How to break Astral Projection) |
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 Jul 2 2007, 01:29 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 11-September 04 From: GA Member No.: 6,651  |
Does the Great Form power "Endowment" from a Great Form Task/Guardian spirit allow a projecting mage to use the Materialization power and interact with the physical world while Projecting? Immunity to Normal Weapons really is darned good.
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Jul 2 2007, 03:45 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
hmmm.... technically, this appears to work.
they did block off the possibility of doing this via power pact, however, so i would tend to think the intention was a definite no. of course, even if you can't, you can always have a guidance spirit great form force targets into the astral and pwn them in astral combat while they're unable to defend (can't default on astral combat, after all)... so this isn't really all that much worse... |
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Jul 2 2007, 04:14 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 11-September 04 From: GA Member No.: 6,651 |
For B&E work it effectively allows a gear-free teleport in SR4.
No tools, but hey... you can flip deadbolts, open windows, flip circuit breakers, search a desk, etc. |
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Jul 2 2007, 05:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 410 Joined: 5-April 07 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 11,383 |
How would foci work. They go astral with you and hen when you materialize somewhere else would they now be it two places? You could always make a bunch of B+E equipment into foci for the purpose of bringing them across.
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Jul 2 2007, 05:51 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Or they manifest with the projecting mage but can't really be used because they are basically the same as a spirit manifesting with a cardboard tube as opposed to a sword, in either form the spirit does the same damage.
Still I'll be banning this ability in my games, if a character wants to be able to "teleport" then he needs to find a way to learn Earthdawn's Astral Walk power (Or whatever its name was.) as an advanced Metamagic. :cyber: |
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Jul 2 2007, 06:02 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
We're talking an initiate with a powerful conjuring specialty. He could just have an Ally spirit do this for him...
-Frank |
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Jul 2 2007, 08:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
With Great Form Power, comes with great form responsibility
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Jul 2 2007, 02:51 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...sheesh! More uber magic abilities
...as if Mundanes don't already have a tough enough time. Now "geeking the mage" requires something on the order of a 55 gal drum size FAE or bovine intervention. |
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Jul 2 2007, 03:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
If the mage materializes that just means his astral form can be shot to death. Sure he'd have immunity to normal weapons but. And well Foci go with you when you go astral. I'm fairly sure the physical body of the foci is back with your own.
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Jul 2 2007, 05:37 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Not exactly. When I wrote Endowment it was actually a nerf on what Greatform spirits could do. In older editions every Greatform spirit could just do that. You didn't need to hit a minimum threshold on an Invoking test, you didn't need a specific kind of spirit, you just did it. So an old school Shaman Initiate could just walk out his front door and call up a Force 2 Greatform City Spirit and walk around all day with any spirit power(s) you wanted. --- And yes, I did figure out ways to "break" endowment by combining it with Inhabitation Flesh Forms to get spirits with various critter powers that they could then hand around. But honestly, it's such an edge case that it was determined to be a negligible threat unworthy of extra wordcount to close. -Frank |
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Jul 2 2007, 05:41 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Huh? Endowment as in the concept of simply granting Powers to people is brand-new.
And I don't even want to think what happens when a Great Form Guardian Spirit endows the Power of Astral Form to somebody... though granting the Power of Sapience to your dog might be fun. |
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Jul 2 2007, 08:15 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...I just have this natural tendency to wince every time someone becomes excited over something that can make a mage even more powerful than they already are in relation to the mundane world.
...getting that itchy trigger finger for the Bovine drop button. |
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Jul 2 2007, 08:56 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
The real fun thing about Endowment is that mundanes can benefit from it, too. What's really fun is having your .01 essence Samurai form a Formula Pact with a Great Form Free Spirit and then convince it to use Hidden Life on him and Endow him with Magical Guard. Then, he spends his huge Samurai Karma Reserves on buying up his counterspelling skill.
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Jul 2 2007, 09:04 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 11-September 04 From: GA Member No.: 6,651 |
OH... MY... GOSH... you just made my day! I am soooo going to incorporate this into some druidical shamanistic thingie! :-) |
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Jul 2 2007, 10:52 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
..ok, I did think about it. Looks like people finally start to catch up with some tricks of the old elf clown. |
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Jul 3 2007, 01:20 AM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
Oh yeah, my dikoted ally spirit has given me a great endowment baby!
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