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 Nov 13 2003, 02:29 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643  |
Do astral beings look any different from real beings?
If not, how can you tell them apart? Also, can I read something that is written while astral? Are auras always present or only if you are specifically looking for them? Now that I have someone who is playing a caster, I have to account for these things. Needless to say, the nature of runs in my world has been turned upside down. I never thought about the idea of peeping on someone, or looking over someones shoulder in astral to steal their PIN number, etc... |
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Nov 13 2003, 02:44 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Can't read text from the Astral Plane.
Everthing not alive looks hazy and indistinct. |
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Nov 13 2003, 02:48 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
"Real", or physical, beings won't be as clear as astral beings when viewed on the astral. Think Lord of the Rings scenes when Frodo has the ring on.
No, but you may be able to tell the general emotion it's intended to convey.
Always present, but like socks you don't see them unless you look.
Not gonna happen unless they've got an ATM Focus they're using. ~J |
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Nov 13 2003, 03:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
Everything is hazy? Damn. Now I have to explain that to my player. Within which book is that noted?
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Nov 13 2003, 04:12 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 4-November 03 From: Bellingham Member No.: 5,791 |
LOL!!! ATM focus, huh?
Just look in SR3 for the basics of astral. Astral beings can tell when something else is astral, or even perceiving. You can see active spells and foci, too. Writing can't be read, but like was stated earlier, emotive contect can be gleaned, such as love from a love letter. Auras are around, but for the most part, ya have to at least make the motions of looking. I very much thought of it in terms of Lord of the Rings- especially the scene on weathertop. Imagine the ringwraiths as dual natured, and you can see their astral forms quite clearly. People are like the ones in Bree- you know they're alive and there, you can hear them, but they aren't quite the same. |
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Nov 13 2003, 04:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-July 02 From: California Member No.: 2,955 |
How far does your "emotive content" go? I extend it to anything handwritten... technology just can't transfer the intent properly. Stop signs ans their ilk, despite being manufactured, are still obvious, however.
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Nov 13 2003, 05:06 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
I use amount of emotion.
"I love you" Little twinge. Sixteen page long, drooling, soppy and heartfelt letter- Major vibes. Economic reports and other corps stuff- nope. |
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Nov 13 2003, 05:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
What about a corp official's email to a colleague stating the misfortunes of a member of the board? There would be emotion behind that, right? |
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Nov 13 2003, 05:14 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
I meant routine data. You'd get emotion, but it'd likely be subdued, since it is a corporation and people don't matter.
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Nov 13 2003, 05:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
Got it.
But, I must be blind or dumb. I cannot find anything in SR3 that states what you see while astral. Help, please! |
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Nov 13 2003, 05:39 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It may have been in MitS. I'll look it up sometime when it is tomorrow in any sense other than the most technical.
~J |
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Nov 13 2003, 06:11 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302 |
You know, shoulder surfing an ATM'd work... hell, all you do is watch the motion of the hand... who needs to read numbers when you can mimick the motions...
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Nov 13 2003, 06:20 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 4-November 03 From: Bellingham Member No.: 5,791 |
I think I've found a new pastime. Just gotta think of a catchy handle, like the 'ATM bandit', only infinitely cooler. I think emotive content of e-mails would be up to the GM's discretion. If the same emotion is poured into it, who cares if it was produced by pen, crayon, or keystroke. But let the GM decide.
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Nov 13 2003, 06:26 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Digital media cannot "hold" or "be impressed upon by" emotional content. The keyboard can though.
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Nov 13 2003, 06:28 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
I'm fairly positive ATM transactions require a thumbprint.
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Nov 13 2003, 06:45 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 4-November 03 From: Bellingham Member No.: 5,791 |
Doesn't that depend on how good of a credstick you have? Like the cheapest are PIN, then stuff like thumprint, voice recognition, etc.?
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Nov 13 2003, 06:46 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Depends on the value of the transaction and credstick color. Lower the color the lower the limit, the lower the transaction the lower the precautions.
I would think someone tried this long ago and now they randomize the number set up on a digital screen. |
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Nov 13 2003, 06:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
Oops, I meant a message passed between the two. Email came to mind, but I was thinking print on paper. Sorry... |
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Nov 13 2003, 06:48 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
No, not really. The printer is not going to impress the emotion of the user unto the paper. The person who reads the book, paper memo, ect will imprint the object, however.
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Nov 13 2003, 06:50 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
If viewing in astral is blurry, peeping in on someone wouldn't be as fulfilling as I had thought. Captain Chaos (pg 22 SR3) seems pretty concerned about the idea though.
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Nov 13 2003, 06:52 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Only non living objects are indistinct. They don't stand out, seem dull and lifeless unless imprinited upon.
People and everything else appear bright and lively (depending) with bright auras about them. |
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Nov 13 2003, 06:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
Again, I am not talking about digital transmissions. Email or otherwise. Even if they are printed. I meant print as in, print your name and sign below. I was thinking email when I made the original post. |
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Nov 13 2003, 06:54 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 4-November 03 From: Bellingham Member No.: 5,791 |
Well, I don't know that it would be all that blurry...perhaps the association with Lord of the Rings should be a loose one....then again, plenty of people get "fulfillment" out of watching scrambled TV channels. American Pie anyone?
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Nov 13 2003, 06:55 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 305 Joined: 24-September 03 From: Albany, OR Member No.: 5,643 |
So, was there ever an example given by any book on what it would look like?
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Nov 13 2003, 07:48 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
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