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 Jul 27 2007, 05:28 AM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686  |
Very quick question just as I'm skimming Augmentation. Since there now exists a biological ultrasound system (enhanced hearing, vocal range enhancement, echolocation), can an adept now take ultrasound as an improved sense?
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Jul 27 2007, 05:52 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
It's always depending on the GM, even with standard Ultrasound (since similar methods already exist in nature).
If you go with a strict reading of the rules, however, it doesn't matter. Improved Sense only grants the listed powers or senses duplicated by cyberware (and thus not bioware, nanoware or genetech) that doesn't include radio or other technological phenomena. It's that last part that just leaves it all weird since, by definition, all cybernetic senses are technological phenomena. But to each their own. Summary: Ask your GM. |
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Jul 27 2007, 06:14 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Ahh, right, I forgot it specifies cyberware only. Thusly, no improved ultrasound by RAW. Darn.
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Jul 27 2007, 06:30 AM
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Cybernetic Blood Mage Group: Members Posts: 3,472 Joined: 11-March 06 From: Northeastern Wyoming Member No.: 8,361 |
Sure, but it's rather silly that everyone in the Sixth World forgot how to build ultrasound capable cybereyes after the Crash 2.0.
Also although I hate to use them in my arguments because they aren't up to snuff, but one of the sample characters has them installed in his/her cybereyes, but I freely admit that it proves nothing by itself considering the state the sample characters are in. |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:55 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
Er ... isn't there an cyberware version of the ultrasound sensor? Say, on page 331 of your hymnal? |
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Jul 27 2007, 11:58 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Yes, but it works through "radar or other technological phenomena" which is a no-no for Improved Sense, silly as it is. I don't know a decent GM who doesn't allow it, though.
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Jul 27 2007, 12:18 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Echolocation. Gotta love it.
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Jul 27 2007, 08:42 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...seems kinda silly when and adept can...
...generate fire or electricity from her bare hands ...hit somebody across the room with a punch ...walk over deep snow without sinking in (at least they can't do this on water...yet) ...change the shape of her face at will ...change the colour of her hair and skin at will ...see in the dark better than a cat ...sniff out scents better than a bloodhound ...yet they can't get the ability to echolocate like a bat? Even elves with those long pointy ears? |
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Jul 27 2007, 08:45 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
1) It's an ear, not an antenna.
2) Nobody said no. Personally, I'd restrict it to passive ultrasound but that's just me. If you want a blind adept on a bicycle making clicks with his tongue, that's your bag. |
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Jul 27 2007, 08:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 941 Joined: 25-January 07 Member No.: 10,765 |
Now I just gotta know: did you ever read 'Armaggedon Blues'? Because I swear that is right there in the book. |
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Jul 27 2007, 08:57 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Idoru by William Gibson. |
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