Meet Brick the Troll, Rip my character apart Options

[Tarantula]

A fully by the book legal tanking monster, with some pretty decent damage to boot. Please, let me know downsides/flaws/issues with him that you see.

As a side note, with his current armor and body ratings, hes tougher than a GMC step-van. Using the 4/1 trade in rule he gets an automatic 7 hits. If he actually rolled, that average up to 9. Thats a whole lot of damage that he can take, without flinching.

P.S. I'd love to spoiler him, but I can't with the code tag and without the code tag it messes up my spacing. Also, plans with him are to when possible remove the adrenaline pump and replace it with a pain editor.

Edit: 10/15/07 Some modifications to Brick. He's got an etiquette skill, perception skill, and some more utility (less punch), plans are to trade out the adrenaline pump for a pain editor when possible, also want a cybergun heavy pistol.

Edit: 10/16/07 Big changes. Dropped the genetic heritage and picked up biocompatability for cyber. Ditched the expensive and worthless adrenaline pump for some wired reflexes. Crammed some more goodies in the cyberlimbs (armor and all around strength enhancement, some sensors, smuggling compartments) and all and all turned him into a massively better tank, much better combatant, and better guy all around.

[Buster]

Hurray a cyber ronin build! :D

[Buster]

I think you left out the bonuses to his cyberlimbs from the custom job. He can go clear up to troll maximum on those physical stats without a loss of capacity or essence then another 3 past that which costs capacity. For example, his str should be around 13 without costing any BP.

[Tarantula]

Availability is +1 per attribute enhanced. Base availability on a full limb is 4. Thus +8 total is the max bonus able at chargen.

[Buster]

I thought that was fixed in the errata, I might be just thinking of cybereyes.

[Tarantula]

There is no errata for augmentation.

[Glyph]

He's a good tank, but kind of limited. No extra IP unless he spends Edge (a risky proposition given your Flaw), and no ranged skills at all. The latter is especially limiting in a setting such as SR, where you can have flying drones, people shooting from third-story windows, guards behind cover, and so on. Sure, he will shrug off most small arms fire, and only a dedicated melee adept would have much chance against him physically, but how much fun would he be to play? The other combat-oriented characters will be getting multiple actions, while you will often have to wade through heavy fire to get an opportunity for a single action.

Those are the real biggies, there. I'm sure others will talk up his lack of social skills beyond intimidation, but he has a Charisma of 2, there is the concept of 0-rated skills, and he doesn't have any of the flaws such as Uncouth or incompetence/social skill. He will function in society better than the Bounty Hunter archetype does, anyways. He is vulnerable to magic, duh, but he also has a decent Willpower, and presumably his teammates will include someone with counterspelling. The lack of a Perception skill - that can hurt you, and even one point of it would make a big difference for him.

[Negalith]

Is there such a thing as Used Alpha Bioware.... Dosent alpha bioware have to be custom grown for that character?

[Tarantula]

Used alpha bioware exists.

His point isn't to deal out ranged combat. He doesn't really need to care about even heavy arms fire (he can shrug off most sniper rifle rounds). Even a dedicated melee adept would have a very hard time hurting him (str 6, critical strike 6 is only 12P, fairly within his ability to negate to almost nothing).

His ability to take damage helps in the magic department too. He's nigh untouchable via physical spells, and via stunbolts/balls the adrenaline pump kicks in, and he doesn't pass out from stun while its active. His fun comes from rolling fistfulls of dice (28) all while combat is going on. Not being scared to punch the guy who pissed you off at the bar, or anywhere. Why? Because even a panther round would be hard pressed to put him down.

[hyzmarca]

The Adrenalin pump is more of a liability than an asset. It is extremely unreliable and, worse, causes irresistible stun damage. Your troll is extremely vulnerable to stun.

Get rid of the pump, make your reaction enhancers normal grade, and go with a pain editor (used, normal grade) to ignore stun, a Trauma Dampner and Aluminum Bone Lacing (used, Alpha grade).

That gives you 5k to work with, as well.

The shield is also unreliable and you, unfortunately, can be caught without it.

You could also drop the Trauma Dampner, that'll free up another 40k and .2 essence.

[The Jopp]

Let's see....

No etiquette and charisma 2...

He'll be rolling 1D6 for charisma tests.

I hope to god he doesn't meet ANY kind conman. Or someone with Commanding Voice.

Hell, all that is needed is someone with good leadership skills that tells him to drop his weapon.

Composure tests will be a bitch as well and he lacks ANY kind of actual charisma (ie the kind that influences people when they look at him) he might as well be a cardboard cut out.

Someone with Leadership 3 and Charisma 3 could literally tell him to jump of a building and he would actually THINK about doing it (might not if an enemy tells him)

[Stahlseele]

just give him the ability to shoot a bow and there you have your firepower and long reach damage capability *g*

[Buster]

My human mage casts force 9 Control Thoughts on you with:

Spellcasting 6 + Magic 6 + 2 (mentor spirit) + 2 (spec manipulation) + 2 (power focus) + reroll 12 failed = 30 dice.

Versus your Willpower 4 + Edge 4 = 8 dice.

PWNED. All yur tank are belong to us.

[FriendoftheDork]

Fun experiment. Perhaps I'll throw him at the party if they piss off a Mr. J or something.

"This conversation is over. Mr. Brick, destroy them."

"Arghh!" Hehe, even Uzz will have difficulty shooting him down, even if he gets 6 attacks to his 1 each round.

But alas the fun will be over as soon as Simon mindbends him to his will, at which point he becomes very suicidal I think... although he will be hard pressed to kill himself with that body!

[hyzmarca]

Geek the mage first.

[toturi]

[Buster]

[hyzmarca]

[Fortune]

[Buster]

[Fortune]

4 IP does not necessarily equate to an Initiative in the 30's.

[Buster]

[Fortune]

I noticed. And you still haven't ... why not? :?

[hyzmarca]

Lets not derail this thread and instead bring it back into your thread, then.

[Tarantula]