Combining similar bioware and adept powers, will they stack ? Options

[Wanderer]

If a (mystic) adept happens to have some bioware and some powers whose effects are similar, do they stack and how ?

Some typical cases:

Killing Hands and Bone Density Augmentation;

Mystic Armor and Orthoskin;

Smart Insulation Orthoskin and Temperature Tolerance;

Electroshock Orthoskin and Elemental Strike (Electricity);

Mimic False Front and Facial Sculpt;

Dynamic Chamaleon Skin and Melanin Control;

Metabolic Arrester and Metabolic Control (on the opposite case, would Metabolic Control be compatible with a Suprathyroid Gland);

Vocal Range Enhancer and Voice Control;

Pain Resistance and Damage Compensators;

Natural Immunity and Pathogenic Defense/Toxin Extractor;

[Glyph]

I don't have Augmentation, but as a general rule, I would assume most of those combinations would stack. The adept power descriptions for attribute boost and increased reflexes specifically state that they are not compatible with other increases, so I would tend to assume compatibility in other cases.

Some would be mostly redundant, though. Using electroshock orthoskin with elemental strike (electricity) would do little other than increase the duration of the disorientation. The effective part of that combo would be the killing hands, letting the adept do physical and stun damage simultaneously. But if a sammie can do the same thing with a shock hand and bone lacing, why not?

[NightRain]

[Stahlseele]

wasn't there this little bit somewhere, that magic and tech, no matter if cyber, bio, or nanotech NEVER do stack?

[NightRain]

[Fortune]

[Stahlseele]

so strictly speaking by wording of SR4 Core Book Adept improved reflexes are compatible with bioware ini booster?

[NightRain]

[Stahlseele]

and here i thought biological would be the exact opposite of tecnological . . so there's metal bits in bioware? o.O
and if all else fails there's the precedent of cyber-eyes . . it's been paid for with essence as of SR4, so magic had better work through it too . .

[NightRain]

[Narse]

Bioware is biotechnology. 'nuff said.

The example of Improved Reflexes not stacking is really a game balance issue. The devs don't want you to be able to take wired 1, improved reflexes 1, and magically enhanced reflexes 1 for the result of wired 3 (or synaptic booster 3).

I think in most cases it would stack, unless a GM rules otherwise, as some combos could potentially affect game balance.

[Stahlseele]

so if the adept loses one arm and gets a clone replacement, he will not be able to use killing hands with said arm?

[NightRain]

[Stahlseele]

so as long as they retain an magic attribute of 1 a cyber-zombie or cyborg could still use killing hands but someone who gets a little more grey matter into his brain can't have faster reflexes?

[Fortune]

Things that add to Initiative (Initiative only, not Reaction) do not stack, not matter what the source of the bonus. Two different forms of Magical boost don't stack. Two technological boosts don't stack. No two separate things that grant a bonus to Initiative that can be found in the game stack in any way, shape, or form. That makes it clearer.

[Shrike30]

[Fortune]

Not quite. Cyberzombies retain a Magic Attribute of 1.

[Eryk the Red]

[WearzManySkins]

Actually is entirely possible to do physical damage and stun damage in the same attack and not be an adept.

Cyber hand Blades/claws/spurs and a Bioware gland with weapon reservoir loaded with narcojet.

Narcojet does 10 Stun when it is injected, target gets a toxin resistance test to try and stage it down.

WMS

[NightRain]

[Narse]

So how do you deal with injection arrows and bolts, which are specifically sited under the RAW as having 2 damaging effects? (the rest I can see disallowing under the ruling: "they don't stack") [well at least with toxins the damage isn't applied at the same time, even 'immediate' toxins don't apply till the end of the combat turn]

[NightRain]