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> Do Trolls belong in SR?, Offshoot from the troll heavy weapons
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post Nov 29 2007, 03:06 PM
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I agree that the size of trolls should be a big fucking deal, and that the system has never seriously accounted for it. I think thats a stronger argument for fixing the system than removing trolls though, even if it just means hashing out a stealth penalty and the modifier to hit them.
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post Nov 29 2007, 03:13 PM
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Fuchs, what program are you using to generate those?
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post Nov 29 2007, 03:16 PM
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DAZ Studio
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post Nov 29 2007, 03:25 PM
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I was wondering.

I wonder who, if anyone, makes the Troll Friendly reinforced toilets? Otherwise I forsee a lot of mess and cracked porcelin from Trolls trying to squeeze into cubicles when nature calls!

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post Nov 29 2007, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (GentlemanLoser)
I was wondering.

I wonder who, if anyone, makes the Troll Friendly reinforced toilets? Otherwise I forsee a lot of mess and cracked porcelin from Trolls trying to squeeze into cubicles when nature calls!

;)

Even if there's no money in it, I'm sure corps do this. It's in everyone's best interest to have troll-reinforced toilets.
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post Nov 29 2007, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE (Fuchs)
(Here's a Link to average-sized Troll, Ork, Human and Elf (250, 190, 175 und 190 cm).

That's very nice, Fuchs. Play with the bulk of the builds a little bit, add a dwarf, and you've got one of my all-time favorite SR resources. For bonus points, add a male and female of each metatype.
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post Nov 29 2007, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE (Fuchs)
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Nice. If you have the time showing the same group walking into a building through a normal sized door and another showing them sitting at a normal sized table would be cool.
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post Nov 29 2007, 08:10 PM
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Male Races Lineup

Troll and Ork are stockier (10 and 5%). Average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)
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post Nov 29 2007, 08:47 PM
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Not the hippest undies in the world but a very cool pic all the same.
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post Nov 29 2007, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE (Grinder)
QUOTE (Riley37 @ Nov 26 2007, 10:09 PM)
QUOTE (Falconer @ Nov 24 2007, 08:44 PM)
There's also probably a problem in that a large sized troll will have breeding difficulties w/ a basic human (there is such a thing as too big).

Are you saying that troll mothers are incapable of being fertilized by human fathers due to size difference? What about orc fathers, though?

...or were you thinking of all trolls as male?

Male trolls and female humans, I suppose.

Some stuff I forgot to comment on:

This is an unsound assumption to make. Consider, for example, the average penis size of the Gorilla, at something around 4cm.

~J
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post Nov 29 2007, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (Grinder @ Nov 26 2007, 05:26 PM)
QUOTE (Riley37 @ Nov 26 2007, 10:09 PM)
QUOTE (Falconer @ Nov 24 2007, 08:44 PM)
There's also probably a problem in that a large sized troll will have breeding difficulties w/ a basic human (there is such a thing as too big).

Are you saying that troll mothers are incapable of being fertilized by human fathers due to size difference? What about orc fathers, though?

...or were you thinking of all trolls as male?

Male trolls and female humans, I suppose.

Some stuff I forgot to comment on:

This is an unsound assumption to make. Consider, for example, the average penis size of the Gorilla, at something around 4cm.

~J

Is there some reason you know that? Is there something you aren't telling us?
:rotfl:
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post Nov 29 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
This is an unsound assumption to make. Consider, for example, the average penis size of the Gorilla, at something around 4cm.

~J

I had to read this 4 times before I finally realized it didn't say "Godzilla".
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post Nov 29 2007, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Fuchs)
Male Races Lineup

Troll and Ork are stockier (10 and 5%). Average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)

Awesome. That is truly useful.
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post Nov 29 2007, 10:16 PM
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Is there some reason you know that? Is there something you aren't telling us?
:rotfl:

He doesn't really like it when I talk about it.

~J
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post Nov 29 2007, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)
QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Nov 29 2007, 03:55 PM)
This is an unsound assumption to make. Consider, for example, the average penis size of the Gorilla, at something around 4cm.

~J

I had to read this 4 times before I finally realized it didn't say "Godzilla".

I always assumed Godzilla was a woman. But then, I know nothing of women.
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post Nov 29 2007, 11:24 PM
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nah . . godzilla was the image of royally screwed and hated by society . .
HE was the only male to never have sex but be riddled with children *g*
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post Nov 29 2007, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (Fuchs)
Male Races Lineup

Troll and Ork are stockier (10 and 5%). Average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)

Very helpful picture. Is the Troll +10%, Ork +5% number listed anywhere in the RAW? I'd always imagined them as being more like +10 and +20, but my imagination may be out of whack with RAW.

That software package definitely rocks.
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post Nov 29 2007, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (Apathy)
QUOTE (Fuchs @ Nov 29 2007, 03:10 PM)
Male Races Lineup

Troll and Ork are stockier (10 and 5%). Average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)

Very helpful picture. Is the Troll +10%, Ork +5% number listed anywhere in the RAW? I'd always imagined them as being more like +10 and +20, but my imagination may be out of whack with RAW.

That software package definitely rocks.

I meant compared to the earlier versions I posted.
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post Nov 29 2007, 11:56 PM
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That's awesome Fuchs, although it makes the advertising phrase "Wait til we get our Hanes on you," sound vaguely threatening.
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post Nov 30 2007, 02:01 AM
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Female Races Lineup

Again average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)
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post Nov 30 2007, 02:30 AM
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QUOTE (Fuchs @ Nov 29 2007, 07:01 PM)
Female Races Lineup

Again average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)


Nice work! Now all we need is the other races (ala SR Companion).....
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post Nov 30 2007, 03:31 AM
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I always assumed Godzilla was a woman. But then, I know nothing of women.

I know they're not 400' tall lizards with nuclear breath, but that's about it.

Awesome stuff again, Fuchs. The Victoria Secret Fall 2070 line-up, although I find myself wanting to shout at the troll, "That ain't no secret, honey!" for whatever reason. (She reminds me of the Where the Wild Things Are, but in a good way.)

I'll ask, because I'm not familiar with DAZ, but how hard would it be to put them into full runner gear?
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post Nov 30 2007, 06:18 AM
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HE was the only male to never have sex but be riddled with children *g*

Having just Rule 34ed Godzilla, I can assure everyone that your statement is untrue. :P
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post Nov 30 2007, 07:46 AM
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I'll ask, because I'm not familiar with DAZ, but how hard would it be to put them into full runner gear?

That's next on the program. It's not that hard, just a tad time consuming, and one needs the right ressources - aka clothes.
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post Nov 30 2007, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (Fuchs)
Female Races Lineup

Again average relative height for every race (120 cm, 175 cm, 190 cm, 190 cm, 250 cm)

Great work! I really, really appreciate this. This will be a great game resource for showing people just how tall each race is supposed to be.
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