 Some help with KnowSofts and LinguaSofts |
 Nov 16 2007, 03:20 AM
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Ok, I've looked over the rules and am really confused about how knowsofts and linguasofts work. Activesofts are easy, you need a datajack or internal simsense and total skill points are limited to twice rating. Prices for softs are by rating, easy as pie to understand.
Knowsofts and Linguasofts I'm lost on. They have the same requirement for a datajack or internal simsense rig, but no listing of any limiting factor. In 3.0 chipjacks or headware memory provided a practical limitation on these skills. What's the limiting factor in 4.0? There has to be something otherwise for relatively low nuyen everyone's running around with 5s in a wide variety of skills and languages. What am I missing? Thanks! With a sweep of his hat, Trellan |
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Trellan Some help with KnowSofts and LinguaSofts Nov 16 2007, 03:20 AM
Tarantula Activesofts need a skillwire setup (or move by wir... Nov 16 2007, 03:36 AM Trellan So could you have 18 Rating 5 Knowsofts all loaded... Nov 16 2007, 04:26 AM Tarantula Yeah, you can. Nov 16 2007, 04:54 AM Cain Check me on this, but if you have any piece of int... Nov 16 2007, 05:00 AM Doctor Funkenstein You need the datajack/trodes/etc. to actually use ... Nov 16 2007, 05:19 AM JBlades Specifically, you need a direct neural interface t... Nov 16 2007, 05:33 AM cx2 The catch with knowsofts (and to a slightly lesser... Nov 16 2007, 06:01 AM DTFarstar For gang territories, my groups hacker has hosted ... Nov 16 2007, 06:46 AM FriendoftheDork QUOTE (cx2) The catch with knowsofts (and to a sli... Nov 16 2007, 06:51 AM Glyph QUOTE (Trellan)There has to be something otherwise... Nov 16 2007, 07:26 AM Tarantula QUOTE (JBlades) Specifically, you need a direct ne... Nov 16 2007, 03:51 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 16 2007, 10:51 AM) QUO... Nov 16 2007, 04:12 PM Tarantula You quoted it there yourself. It appears that the... Nov 16 2007, 04:25 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Tarantula) You quoted it there yourself. I... Nov 16 2007, 04:32 PM Tarantula QUOTE (DireRadiant) What about the bit that says ... Nov 16 2007, 04:36 PM DireRadiant Just because A can use B which requires C doesn... Nov 16 2007, 04:42 PM Tarantula There are 2 methods for direct neural link. 1) Da... Nov 16 2007, 04:45 PM FrankTrollman A Sim Module just converts a data stream into sims... Nov 16 2007, 04:50 PM Tarantula Shouldn't trodes also not require a sim module... Nov 16 2007, 04:53 PM Buster Just say no to trodes. Datajacks are what put the... Nov 16 2007, 04:57 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Tarantula) Shouldn't trodes also not re... Nov 16 2007, 04:59 PM Tarantula Fine. Shouldn't any other method of DNI also ... Nov 16 2007, 05:01 PM Cain And what happens if you have skillwires, but no da... Nov 16 2007, 05:10 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Cain) And what happens if you have skillwir... Nov 16 2007, 05:13 PM Paradigm @Cain
Then you just can't load the data onto t... Nov 16 2007, 05:15 PM Tarantula Skillsofts only require the skillwires to work. Y... Nov 16 2007, 05:22 PM Doctor Funkenstein If you read it as intended, it's pretty clear ... Nov 16 2007, 06:05 PM Tarantula Datajacks don't include a sim module. Its obv... Nov 16 2007, 06:35 PM JBlades You are correct, the use of trodes to run a knowso... Nov 16 2007, 08:53 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Tarantula) Datajacks don't include a si... Nov 16 2007, 08:53 PM Fortune QUOTE (JBlades) ... a sim module, such as that inc... Nov 16 2007, 09:38 PM JBlades True, but every set of trodes has only 1 purpose a... Nov 16 2007, 10:27 PM Buster QUOTE (Fortune @ Nov 16 2007, 04:38 PM) QUOTE... Nov 16 2007, 10:28 PM Riley37 QUOTE (JBlades @ Nov 16 2007, 03:53 PM) The c... Nov 16 2007, 10:29 PM JBlades QUOTE (Buster @ Nov 16 2007, 03:28 PM) True a... Nov 16 2007, 10:30 PM JBlades QUOTE (Riley37) Oh, you CAN just mush into the tro... Nov 16 2007, 10:33 PM Buster QUOTE (JBlades) QUOTE (Buster @ Nov 16 2007, ... Nov 16 2007, 10:33 PM JBlades Ya, thanks. I'll edit. Nov 16 2007, 10:35 PM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Tarantula) Datajacks don't include a si... Nov 16 2007, 11:07 PM Tarantula QUOTE (DireRadiant) So you are saying that all of ... Nov 17 2007, 04:30 AM Doctor Funkenstein You think a Sim Module's sole purpose is to fa... Nov 17 2007, 03:35 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) You think a Sim Module... Nov 17 2007, 04:37 PM Jaid actually, the sim module requires a DNI to work. t... Nov 17 2007, 05:42 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Jaid) actually, the sim module requires a D... Nov 17 2007, 06:03 PM Paradigm QUOTE (Franktrollman) Doc Funk is saying that I sh... Nov 17 2007, 06:37 PM Doctor Funkenstein No, Doc Funk said nothing of the sort. FrankTroll... Nov 17 2007, 08:26 PM Tarantula Except why should the options be a datajack (which... Nov 18 2007, 06:14 PM kigmatzomat Part of this is the SR evolution of the datajack o... Nov 18 2007, 06:50 PM Tarantula Then its equally reasonable to believe that a trod... Nov 18 2007, 06:55 PM Doctor Funkenstein Only in the towns of Illiterateville and Refusetor... Nov 18 2007, 07:29 PM Tarantula Well the Doc, by reading the manual, you only need... Nov 18 2007, 07:34 PM Doctor Funkenstein Except that a Sim Module expressely tells you diff... Nov 18 2007, 10:44 PM PH3NOmenon search-fu btw:
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Dunno if ... Nov 19 2007, 01:49 AM Jaid QUOTE (PH3NOmenon @ Nov 18 2007, 08:49 PM) Du... Nov 19 2007, 01:54 AM Tarantula QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein) Except that a Sim Modul... Nov 19 2007, 05:43 AM kigmatzomat Actually both can be in correct. Nothing anywhere... Nov 19 2007, 02:40 PM Tarantula kigmatzomat, the problem in assuming the softs tex... Nov 19 2007, 03:04 PM DireRadiant Sim Modules require trodes or DNI.
Knowsofts requi... Nov 19 2007, 03:31 PM Tarantula Dire, if you can use knowsofts with ONLY a sim mod... Nov 19 2007, 03:35 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 19 2007, 10:35 AM) Dir... Nov 19 2007, 03:40 PM Tarantula Except dire, you're simplifying it too much.
S... Nov 19 2007, 03:44 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Tarantula) Dire, if you can use knowsofts w... Nov 19 2007, 03:45 PM Tarantula No, but it does make sim modules an example of dir... Nov 19 2007, 03:46 PM Ryu It does not make Sim Modules an example for DNI. I... Nov 19 2007, 04:04 PM Tarantula Ryu, then nothing is DNI, if requiring DNI and lis... Nov 19 2007, 04:08 PM Ryu That part of the rules does not intend to define D... Nov 19 2007, 06:08 PM Tarantula Ryu, my point is that the Softs text is flawed, be... Nov 19 2007, 07:12 PM DireRadiant QUOTE (Tarantula) Ryu, my point is that the Softs ... Nov 19 2007, 07:36 PM Tarantula No, they aren't.
The text states DNI is requi... Nov 19 2007, 07:41 PM FrankTrollman QUOTE (DireRadiant) QUOTE (Tarantula @ Nov 19... Nov 19 2007, 07:48 PM Doctor Funkenstein Sim Module: The sim module is an ASIST interface t... Nov 19 2007, 08:29 PM Sponge QUOTE (Tarantula)If you accept the text is wrong, ... Nov 19 2007, 08:57 PM Tarantula Sponge: Who says you have to plug it in? This is... Nov 19 2007, 09:06 PM Eryk the Red QUOTE It's not like it's some obscure rule... Nov 19 2007, 09:16 PM Sponge QUOTE (Tarantula)Sponge: Who says you have t... Nov 19 2007, 09:28 PM Tarantula Who says you dont just buy it off the matrix in th... Nov 19 2007, 09:33 PM Doctor Funkenstein QUOTE (Eryk the Red) Seriously, dude. Cut down on ... Nov 20 2007, 05:44 AM Ryu Serious lack of reading skills IMO. Fine, read it ... Nov 20 2007, 07:52 AM FrankTrollman QUOTE (Ryu) Serious lack of reading skills IMO. Fi... Nov 20 2007, 08:04 AM Ryu So the undefined term would be "indirect neur... Nov 20 2007, 02:16 PM Tarantula Ryu, my point is not that a sim module should be w... Nov 20 2007, 03:51 PM Ryu I consider the "literal" reading of RPG ... Nov 20 2007, 09:51 PM
FrankTrollman QUOTE (Ryu) I consider the "literal" rea... Nov 20 2007, 10:11 PM  |
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