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post Dec 8 2007, 04:14 AM
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Also, please point out where a ward doesn't affect its creator? Because you're contradicting the book by stating mana barriers do but wards don't.

I was wrong in my previous blanket statement about Wards, which is why I went back and checked, and posted the quotes. :)
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post Dec 8 2007, 04:17 AM
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The magician simply allows the spell they are casting to pass through the mana barrier (as the text says they can) and thus remain unaffected.

A spell is not a separate living entity in SR4.
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post Dec 8 2007, 04:49 AM
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It just says that the magician can see through and pass through a mana barrier, and can permit others (no specification) to do so also. Thusly, a spell is an entity which might need to pass through the barrier, why shouldn't the magician be able to permit it?
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post Dec 8 2007, 04:56 AM
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Because a spell is not considered an entity in SR4.

If a caster's spells were unaffected by a mana barrier, then specific mention would have been made to reflect that exception in the section where it states 'Should a magician try to cast a spell through a barrier, the target of the spell adds the Force of the barrier to its resistance dice pool'.
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post Dec 8 2007, 06:11 PM
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If a spell isn't an entity, then isn't the caster not being affected by the barrier the best way to say that the caster's spells aren't either? Since the spells aren't separate, then if the caster isn't affected, neither should his spells.
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post Dec 8 2007, 06:15 PM
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If a spell isn't an entity, then isn't the caster not being affected by the barrier the best way to say that the caster's spells aren't either?

No. The best way to state that the creator's spells are affected by the barrier is to state ...

QUOTE (SR4 pg. 185)
Should a magician try to cast a spell through a barrier, the target of the spell adds the Force of the barrier to its resistance dice pool.


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post Dec 8 2007, 06:31 PM
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I still disagree that spells aren't an entity. The Passing Through Barriers section just below wards states quite specifically that spells, foci, spirits, or characters can be forced into having to pass through a barrier. So, if a spell can be forced through a barrier, then why can't a magician permit his to go through his barrier with no penalty.
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