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 Dec 21 2007, 06:23 PM
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Awakened Master Ninja  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 945 Joined: 30-January 07 From: CalFree Member No.: 10,844  |
I got through reading Emergence last night, and it mentioned that Technomancers would be required to register, just like mages already were. Already were?! When and where (what book) did that happen? I found nothing on that in the 4e Core Rules or Street Magic. Should I be looking in my 3e collection? If so, where? And are mandatory cell samples also part of that? My current character's a SINner with a double life, so I need to know what countries to watch out for on this (I've given her PCC citizenship - they sell legal SINs to anyone who wants to buy them along with citizenship stock certificates).
BTW - wasn't there a power/technique somewhere in some book(s) where you could spend Karma to sever the links to all existing body samples that existed out there of yourself? Anyone know where that is? EDIT: Ok, I know the UK and Tir na Og are pissy about that, but North America? |
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Dec 21 2007, 06:29 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
I remember in the Tir na nOg (fuck capitalization anyway) sourcebook they talked about magicians being required to register.
Is it possible that the speaker isn't in the UCAS, but is sort of assuming that the whole world should live by their home country's legal system and standards of right and wrong? 'Cause that never happens on the internet. :S edit: saw your edit, my point still stands. |
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Dec 21 2007, 06:32 PM
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Awakened Master Ninja Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 945 Joined: 30-January 07 From: CalFree Member No.: 10,844 |
Actually, I had my edit in before I saw your post, but I believe it was a UCAS poster talking about UCAS in the book.
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Dec 21 2007, 06:33 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
In that case I have no idea. :-D
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Dec 21 2007, 06:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 829 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 770 |
Mages used to have to get licenses for spells over force 3. Since spells aren't force-limited in 4th Ed., I imagine they simply switched over to "registered mage" instead. In 3rd Ed, a mage could change his signature when he initiated instead of gaining a point of magic or getting a metamagic (either, both? I don't recall.) |
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Dec 21 2007, 06:55 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
in the UCAS, as far as i recall, mages have never been required to actually register, but as Mr. Unpronounceable said, you needed a license for any spell over force 3. by contrast, in the UK, all mages have been required to register since the London SB.
my interpretation of that is that technomancers need a license for any complex form over rating 3. |
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Dec 21 2007, 06:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 21-July 05 From: Seattle Member No.: 7,508 |
Well, from a quick search from Sprawl Survival Guide:
(Sprawl Survival Guide, pg 43) - this is specifically regarding the UCAS, although the book does say that most North American countries have similar laws.
(pg 62)
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Dec 21 2007, 07:11 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
if you initiate you ALLWAYS get the Point of magic . . ok, if you do ALLY it gets to be his instead of yours, but still! |
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Dec 21 2007, 07:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 829 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 770 |
OK, so it was instead of the metamagic. Like I said, it's been a while since I needed to worry about it.
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Dec 22 2007, 12:16 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Actually, anything over Force 2. ;) |
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Dec 22 2007, 05:02 PM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
@JanessaVR
For 4th Edition (no book handy while traveling, sorry) I know there's two metamagics called Flexible Signature and Flux which can mess up a character's connection to a ritual link. They're in either SR4 or Street Magic. |
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Dec 22 2007, 05:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 10-September 05 From: Montevideo, in the elusive shadows of Latin America Member No.: 7,727 |
They are in Street Magic -a book that I own but can't find at the moment- I have the fuzzy memory that I lent it to one of my players, but who?
Cheers, Max the oblivious |
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Dec 22 2007, 08:22 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Flux is in Street Magic, but Flexible Signature is in the SR4 Core book.
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Dec 22 2007, 10:17 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
It's like being an organ donor, you want the fact that you're magically capable on your medical records so the EMTs don't decide to just cut off your defective body parts and stick in cyber versions. :rotate:
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Dec 23 2007, 03:52 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,246 Joined: 8-June 07 Member No.: 11,869 |
Emergence is actually a 3rd edition book, but it was erroneously marked as 4th edition. Most of the references within the book are to 3rd edition books, which really confused me because I never read the 3rd edition stuff. IIRC, the timetable in Emergence is even set before the 4th edition core book. I guess the new company figured they'd make more money by calling it 4th edition instead. <shrug>.
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Dec 23 2007, 06:57 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
If you say so. :please: |
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Dec 24 2007, 01:12 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Dude, I wrote part of that book. Believe me, it's 4th. |
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