Corporate Enclaves Review, What are your thoughts? Options

[Zhan Shi]

Just finished reading it. Impressions: the cover art is certainly better than Augmenation, the interior art less so. As for the actual text, I'd say it's top notch. Lot's of juicy tidbits and adventure potential. The section that really caught my eye? Horizon employs a Tir expat (presumably an elf, though not explicitly stated) who is writing a novel called "The Last Spire". Hmmmm....

Also intrigued by the Dawkins Group, and their mission of hunting and destroying dangerous beliefs. Bottom line: I liked it. Kudos to all involved.

[Stahlseele]

i personally liked the part about neo-tokyo and europort . . and i think the interior art is good too . . Trolls, Orcs, Dwarves, Humans and elves finally look at least a little bit decent . .

[Cardul]

Well, personally, I wish they had perhaps included some more juicy crunchy things ;)

Like Availability adjustments or specific Positive or Negative Qualities for LA and Neo-Tokyo.

Beyond that, though...very good book. My GM in fact is looking forward to running us through a game in Neotokyo. So far, we have an Elf Re-pat Physical Adept and a Human Hacker/low end technomancer(took it because he wanted something that played up on the newness of TMs and that there are those still learning their stuff). Not sure if the other player is going to do a Shinto magician(and thus, default Face), though my GM and I are hoping he does. Me..I am not sure what I am going to run yet, though the GM is inclined to have me run the vet who "shows them the ropes" early on.

[Synner]

Nice to see some positive reviews. This book certainly had its ups and downs, but I have to say I like the way it turned out in the end and I was hoping fans would like it too.

As usual I would have liked to have a lot more space for places like Europort and Tecnoctitlán but it just isn't feasible, but I think we still managed to showcase some of the uniqueness and peculiarities that make these other company towns cool settings.

[Stahlseele]

something that i found unnerving was the bit of shadowtalk in the part about neo-tokyo where there is mentioning of "cybertech, biotech, nanotech, gentech and manatech" . .

[Synner]

Consider it a teaser of sorts, after all Arsenal will include about 4 pages worth of "manatech" devices, some of which make perfect sense as next-gen (post-2071) cyberlimb plug-ins, biotech/symbionts/genetech, and even nanotech.

[Caine Hazen]

You tease!!!

I do like Corp Enclaves though, I believe this format is really good. Although I know some people would like to see more info on more places, this allows a few areas to be fleshed out, while leaving enough area for GMs to run crazy with the tidbits that you guys drop in there.

Good job, keep it up!

[Stahlseele]

*grabs and shakes Synner*
Tell me there will be no magical-ware damn you! ò,Ó

[Synner]

Boy do you guys have the wrong idea about manatech - well, half-wrong.

[Ezeckial]

So......

Pretty please can we have arsenal soon?

Before everyone has a fit? :spin:

The fact that I want to see it has nothing to do with it either.........

[Synner]

Or we can get back to reviews of Corp Enclaves...

[Stahlseele]

of course we could, but where would be the fun in that? o.O
ok, back to topic, nice artwork and all that . . except for the cover, i think it's fugly O.o

[knasser]

[Ryu]

I think this time Harly is doing the writing and quite a few other elves are attempting to steal the works, not only Ehran.

The question is: Will he/ the book qualify for the entry in the Big D´s will?

[Stahlseele]

wasnt the last . . nah, that was the crying/blood red spire, carry on . .

[Zhan Shi]

I know some have complained about the whole "P2.0" shadowrunner craze. But I think it's a logical extrapolation, given the current fad of realicrap tv.

The placenta bar was an...interesting...touch, even if it did give me nightmares. "I'd like the stillborn ork, please, with a side of human umbilical cord..." *shudder*

[Dashifen]

I haven't read the NeoTokyo section yet, but the L.A. section was gold. I was worried, for a moment, that you didn't intend the double entendre with "Pito" until I noticed that it was all but spelled out in the shadow commentary. I like that L.A. is starkly different from Seattle and Hong Kong from Runner Havens. Those two cities seemed very similar which, as Runner Havens, was probably the intention. But L.A. stands out as being different from them, and not only because of Pito. I like that the underworld elements in L.A. are less balanced than in the other two cities (i.e., the Mob has the most control and the other syndicates are just beginning to make inroads).

Like Seattle and Hong Kong, there's enough variation in the different sectors of the city (El Infierno vs. Hollywood vs. SFV) that you can put a variety of styles in the city with or without worrying about the Pito network, especially since low to mid-level shadowrunners are unlikely to be invited unless they need to be. I also like that LA has the Deep Lacuna to play around in if you want a mysterious game or two. Seattle has Glow City which can provide a similar feel if played correctly, but the Lacuna puts a magical spin on things while Glow City is all about modern technology and social classism gone wrong.

[Ancient History]

[martindv]

[Stahlseele]

i, for one, welcome our new japanese that are more fucked up than germans *g*

[martindv]

Just because some people do this doesn't make the concept edgy or different or any more than a scatalogical fascination.

[Synner]

[martindv]

That's fine and all, except that some people eat this stuff now (and eat their own, specifically). Just to put it in perspective, that's kind of like projecting out gross-out reality shows being popular in the 2050s in Shadowbeat when in reality Fear Factor (as the most obvious example) came and went within 15 years of that book.

But my apprehension is that I just don't see human product consumption ever being acceptable by more than a niche. Just because forced-growth clones are possible doesn't make it any more likely (or as far as I know any less resource-consuming) that cannibalism would be on the rise. Besides, humans aren't very nutritious. Just look at the HMHVV infected.

It's pretty interesting. Gross, but interesting. Then again, I've seen some pretty weird and otherwise awful (if it wasn't all virtual) stuff in Second Life, and it's never hurt my opinion overall.

[Ancient History]

Did you actually read the relevant section?

[martindv]

Yes, finally. I still don't see the point.

Skimmed through L.A. It seemed so boring. They all did, actually. I can't quite put my finger on the reason why, but oh well.