 Arsenal Street Date & Pre-Order information, Books, and PDFs, and Combos (oh my!) |
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  Jan 26 2008, 04:23 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 5-February 05 From: Lake Stevens, WA Member No.: 7,055  |
Hey all!
Adam's enjoying his well (well) deserved vacation, so I thought I'd take this time to nick in and steal his thunder. Arsenal has a street date of March 18th, 2008! That's right! As always we recommend you contact your local gaming store and make a pre-order for it, but if you don't have a local venue, check out the links below to order it direct. The PDF is available now too! Arsenal PDF ($25.00) Arsenal Book only ($34.99) Arsenal Book & PDF Combo ($54.99) |
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Jan 26 2008, 05:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 18-August 03 From: Apopka, FL U.S.A. Member No.: 5,516 |
Aaaaaannnnnd purchased!
Robert (aka Spanner) |
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Jan 26 2008, 05:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 992 Joined: 2-August 06 Member No.: 9,006 |
Darn it! I have to wait until payday! Darn school books sucking up all my money!
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Jan 26 2008, 06:33 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
:D is actually a pretty good representation of my face at the moment.
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Jan 26 2008, 06:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
Woah, that was fast. I thought there was going to be a preview first. But this is even better.
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Jan 26 2008, 07:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 193 Joined: 5-January 06 From: Louisiana Member No.: 8,132 |
Most excellent....out for my birthday.
8) |
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Jan 26 2008, 08:18 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
12% downloaded.
:D EDIT: 26% :D :D EDIT: EDIT: 45% :D :D :D EDIT: EDIT: EDIT: 78% :D :D :D (getting excited!) EDIT: EDIT: EDIT: EDIT: Oooooooh... semi-automatic assault cannons. |
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Jan 26 2008, 08:56 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
Of course you must have waited until my Commando Demo event so that I would come home all tired and exhausted from my demo so all I can do is buy it and look at the pictures for a few minutes before succumbing to the exhaustion....
I guess it's a good thing, if you released it before the Demo I may have been horribly late to it... |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:03 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
As much as I'll enjoy reading the book: the cover art is awful. Not as awful as the one of Augmentation, but still awful.
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Jan 26 2008, 09:22 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Not as bad as Augmentation, but more cartoony than I'd like. Some more serious artwork inside, though. Am speed reading through it at the moment and first impression is not as much power-creep as I'd like. I've also spotted a world of GM pain hidden in one small sentence on pg 165. Will give you a clue: It starts with "The Gamesmaster determines exactly what effect this has..." Am still skimming tables and rules, though. Haven't even begun to read the less crunchy parts such as black market dealing, et al. |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:31 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
There will be more guidelines on this in Unwired, consider it a placeholder since this was written before the relevant section of that book was completed. |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:31 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Form-fitting body armour is back and stacks with normal armour. I see all the best-dressed Shadowrunners wearing it this season. Though that's a terrifying image when applied to trolls in what must look like a very snug bondage outfit. :eek: |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:34 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Thought there would be. But in the meantime it's a can of worms I am welding shut and burying at the bottom of my garden. In concrete. Like the samurai armour, btw. Nice and stylish! :) |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:34 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
There are also those rules on p.44-45 to make armor more interesting... |
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Jan 26 2008, 09:42 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Oh... wow... GM: Make a Logic + Armourer roll. Player: That's unusual, never had to make one of them before... 2 hits. GM: You notice that the armour all of these guards were wearing is lined with radiation shielding. Players (together): Uh oh. Also noticed Power Armour has sneaked in there. You tried to hide it under a minor little modification type, but I found it! |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:22 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 28-July 05 Member No.: 7,525 |
A Quick read through, and i have to say very nice book. Good art work, but would have liked to see some pic's of some of the new stuff that hasn't cropped up before in other books.
But on the whole a great book. |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:38 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 640 Joined: 8-October 07 Member No.: 13,611 |
"This is where Cain goes berserk." |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:39 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Such as? |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:42 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Catalyst did try to squeeze as much gear art as possible into the book. The new guns and vehicles are pretty well represented (about 70% of both get illos) compared to some of the other gear though you do get illos for common stuff like a magemask and magecuffs (Yay! Finally got them into print).
As with Augmentation and Street Magic the intent was to keep power-creep and the arms race down to a minimum and offer diversity over "bigger, better, more." Edt: Wow... almost a full page and nobody's brought up that dreaded "Manatech." :P |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:46 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
I'm pretty sure he'll be going beserk more than once then - with any luck he'll give up the ghost. |
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Jan 26 2008, 10:56 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Understood and appreciated. But I think of the customised cyberlimb rules in Augmentation as a near perfect example. They allow for a very powerful character in theory and the option is there for games to go that way, but just try actually building a character of that power and see what it does to cost and availability levels. Was kind of looking through the vehicle tables for Areas Main Battle Tank. GM's need toys, too, you know. ;) But I've not really read in depth yet. A cursory reading of the rules for customising vehicles and the base stats for the anthroform Otomo drone means I can make a really armoured up cyborg, yes? I'm a bit confused as to what its effective physical attributes would be however. Also, is it me or is the Otomo missing off the Medium Drones table at the back of the book? |
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Jan 26 2008, 11:06 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Jarhead bodies like the Otomo use the rules for rigging drones/vehicles most likely the Tactical Combat ones in SR4 since they'll be interacting with characters rather than vehicles most of the time). Typical Jumped In Rigging dice pools are also available in the FAQ post. How these translate in terms of Atts and Skills is defined in Augmentation. IIRC (Don't quote me on this until I have time to check my books) use: • The drone's Body = Body • The drone's Body = Str • Vehicle skill (+ the drone’s Handling modifier) = Agility. • Jarhead's commlink Response = Reaction. • Intuition + Response (instead of Pilot + Response) = Initiative. • Drone’s Speed = Movement Rate in tactical combat. • Attack = Gunnery + Sensor • Defense= Response • Dodge = Dodge + Response • Damage Resistance = Body + Armor • Initiative = Response + Intuition • Perception = Perception + (Sensor or Intuition, whichever is lower)
It's possible, I'm at work and away from my copy of the book at the moment. There might have been some problems integrating the stats into the tables at the back of the cyborg bodies since they were a late addition to the book. |
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Jan 26 2008, 11:39 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
So they are. Augmentation pg. 159 for anyone who's looking at it. Seems odd that a human-sized anthroform should be limited to Strength 6, or maybe I've misread something. It's deadly enough, anyway. I'm likely to just raise more and more questions that already have answers, so I'll shut up for now until I've read more. Thanks for the replies, Synner. -K. |
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Jan 26 2008, 11:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 640 Joined: 8-October 07 Member No.: 13,611 |
I hope not. I find it to be the most amusing thing here. |
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Jan 26 2008, 12:14 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Actually that's the baseline for the human-sized Otomo, drone modifications that enhance Bod can increase that and it's pretty much standard for Otomos to be customized for specific functions. If you want more punch, you can always roll out a modified Tomino. |
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