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post May 9 2008, 03:25 AM
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I've gone back and forth on some games due to my binge, but I've settled, i think finally, on replaying tactics. I forgot how great a game this one was, and my old memory card had the save of 10 years ago. Great story and intrigue, lots of characters and gameplay. just all round great game.


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post May 9 2008, 03:36 AM
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I've been playing Syndicate. Nothing better than hitting enemy agents with a persuadatron and a gauss gun.
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post May 9 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (Platinum @ May 8 2008, 08:36 PM) *
I've been playing Syndicate. Nothing better than hitting enemy agents with a persuadatron and a gauss gun.


Oh man do I ever miss that again..I need to find eather that or Syndicate wars again and something to slow down my computer with to play it =)


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post May 9 2008, 02:59 PM
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As much as I loved the theme/feel/idea of Syndicate, I could just never get into the gameplay.

FF Tactics remains a classic, though, and one of my favorite RPGs ever.
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post May 9 2008, 03:22 PM
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What they need to do is make Syndicate and X-Com over again... but not totally shitty like they've been doing so far.

and Final Fantasy Tactics is one of my favorite games, I like the GBA version as well although the story ain't half of what it should be.

Aren't they making a new one?
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post May 9 2008, 03:25 PM
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@mrslammo: Just use DosBox, it should get both running fine.
Which reminds me that I still haven't managed to finish that mission in the city that's getting destroyed by Thor shots.
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post May 9 2008, 06:27 PM
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Tactics was great, the GBA game not so much.


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post May 10 2008, 03:45 AM
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the syndicates were interesting, but i never got into them, maybe it was just too weird.


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post May 10 2008, 11:49 PM
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So what, no X-Com fans? The original X-Com is locked in a brutal fight to the death with Alpha Centauri for my favorite game of all time.
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post May 10 2008, 11:59 PM
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X Com was way to difficult for me. After a couple battles the aliens would start using mental attacks and my whole squad would basically automatically drop dead. Plus I was playing it using DOSBOX and the enemy turns went in fast forward so that it was very hard to figure out where they were and what they were doing.

I really liked Syndicate, though, even though the flamers and the persuadertron were too powerful.
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post May 11 2008, 12:38 AM
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Ah yeah, super speed alien turns makes the game much much harder to play. I started playing X-Com back when it first came out so I'm able to fill in a lot of the blanks (like using my cursor to hunt for them in black squares).

The only way to deal with the mental attacks is make a beeline towards researching stun bombs... or having everyone running around a with a stun prod, ready to stun the crap out of every grey skin you see. I think that's probably the hardest transition point in the game.

It also helps to keep your heavy weapons guy... nowhere near the rest of your teams. That turns out badly.
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post May 11 2008, 12:46 AM
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Looks like my roommate had found how to make X-Com much easier. He basically only sent vehicles. The remaining soldiers just stayed in the ship, ocasionally coming out with guided missile launcher to shoot at some targets.

I've never really enjoyed X-Com. I prefered Jagged Alliance as far as squad turn-based games were concerned.

@Wounded Ronin: you should try Syndicate Wars, or Syndicate: American Revolt. No more standing around corners waiting for the enemy to run through the flames of your "highly effective crowd control solution." (I just love Syndicate's understatements)
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post May 11 2008, 05:06 AM
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I'm going to throw a shout for Fallout: Tactics.

burning through robots with a hip-fired ma deuce is too much fun.
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post May 11 2008, 05:44 AM
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QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 9 2008, 08:22 AM) *
What they need to do is make Syndicate and X-Com over again... but not totally shitty like they've been doing so far.

and Final Fantasy Tactics is one of my favorite games, I like the GBA version as well although the story ain't half of what it should be.

Aren't they making a new one?


UFO Extraterrestrials was a pretty good X-Com clone, especially if you download BMan's mod for it which makes it play a lot more like the orriginal X-Com. X-Com was something of an obsession of mine through most of middle school. That and Might and Magic III, Isles of Terra.

I eventually got to the point with the original X-Com that I could beat the game without using any alien technology apart from the Avenger to get to Mars. It was kinda weird watching soldiers run around Mars with T-Shirts and autocannons.. I never did manage to beat it without a base though as some people have.
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post May 11 2008, 08:30 AM
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Make that two servings of love for Fallout:Tactics. I never finished the last mission (and have since lost the disks and my saved games) but I recall some fond adventures with light infantry and automatic weaponry.

My favorite mission is the one where you're driving through that city filled with super mutants half of which are trying to snipe you out with RPG's. I clearly remember dodging (such as you can in a turn based game) behind buildings and stuff, watching the RPG trails streak all around me.

That game was awesome.

Plus you could shoot people in the groin.
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post May 11 2008, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 11 2008, 03:30 AM) *
Plus you could shoot people in the groin.


Any game that allows for such targetting gets a bonus star!
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post May 12 2008, 04:55 AM
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I like how in Fallout 2 in the interests of feminism they made it so that groin attacks also affect females. In Fallout 1 women were apparently immune to groin pain.
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post May 12 2008, 10:22 PM
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There's actually an amazing text string triggered by certain groin crits on women:
"[Character] is critically hit in the groin for [X] damage. She takes it like a man! That is to say, it hurts a lot."

Also, X-Com? Pretty much my favorite game ever. I've beat it more times than I can remember. No, honestly. I have no idea. I love it, I do.
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post May 12 2008, 11:33 PM
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What's not to love? It was the first computer/video game that made me utterly terrified of the dark. Sure Doom might have daemons but X-Com had terror missions in New Delphi where I couldn't see what the hellwasgoingonandOHMYGODTHEY'RESHOOTINGTHROUGHTHEWALLS.

It was every great movie about alien invasion combined with squad level combat.

And it had anime styling without being totally lame. That in itself should merit an award.
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post May 12 2008, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 10 2008, 07:49 PM) *
So what, no X-Com fans? The original X-Com is locked in a brutal fight to the death with Alpha Centauri for my favorite game of all time.

Put me down as a fan of X-Com, I bought the game when it came out and love it. Great mix of tactical battles and resource management. one of my favorite strategies latter in the game was to mind control a few aliens and use them as point men.
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post May 12 2008, 11:55 PM
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Alien pointmen were always fun but I'm a big softie for mind controlling the guy carrying the blaster bomb.

"Xebrax! What are you *SHOOOOOOOM!*"

I used to like hitting UFO's I'd beat up pretty bad in the sky so I could pop a blaster bomb in through a hole in the roof. The other strategy was to use my people (or mind controlled aliens) to open doors for blaster bomb launches. Good times all around.
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post May 13 2008, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (DocTaotsu @ May 12 2008, 07:55 PM) *
Alien pointmen were always fun but I'm a big softie for mind controlling the guy carrying the blaster bomb.

"Xebrax! What are you *SHOOOOOOOM!*"

I used to like hitting UFO's I'd beat up pretty bad in the sky so I could pop a blaster bomb in through a hole in the roof. The other strategy was to use my people (or mind controlled aliens) to open doors for blaster bomb launches. Good times all around.


Ah yes the good old blaster bomb launcher,always fun, except when you miscalculate a turn and have the thing hit a corner and take out a few of your own guys. You ever have a interceptor follow a UFO instead of shooting it down in the hopes if it leading you to a base?
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post May 13 2008, 03:00 AM
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I have indeed, I actually even did recon by scrambling interceptors to where I thought they were all disapearing to.

Oh... and BOO laser weapons. BOOoooo...
The only thing they were good for was selling.

Did you ever read the X-Com book? Not half bad actually, and they have an entertaining scene where the base commander is reflecting on all the mysterious men who arrive to purchase alien weaponry. Of course they pay cash so he really didn't care all that much.
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post May 13 2008, 01:32 PM
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I discovered X-Com with a demo.
It was kind of strange because IIRC it featured things that weren't in X-Com (such as robot PCs) and art from UFO.

Anyway, at that time I didn't really appreciate the game since when I ordered a team member to shoot an alien 3m away with a rocket launcher he didn't only manage to miss the alien, but also managed to shoot right into one of his teammate standing left or right to him! Then came the alien turn, where a lot of aliens rushed (moving 5 times faster than my guys) towards what remained of my men after their friendly fire party and did not just kill them, but transformed them into aliens as well.
Most of the time, I closed the game when I finally managed to kill one of that "alienified" guy to discover that he split into two "alienifiers" aliens.
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post May 13 2008, 05:23 PM
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Wow that must be a pretty early build (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Or a demo of one of the crappy spinoff sequels.
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