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moosegod View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 07:42 AM Post #1
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818	I have Connected Lvl II for Sphynx's Mercenary game. This means I can buy and sell weapons at their list price, so I have an issue. I control an important flow of nuyen into the group. Living on the street, flow of money=skimming. I just need to know how much to skim off the top. I was thinking 25% fo the list price. Normally the group is going to pull something like 40% of the total price from a dealer, right? So they're making 35% more than they should, if I take the 25% cut. What do you guys think?

Shanshu Freeman

Dec 13 2003, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE (moosegod)

I have Connected Lvl II for Sphynx's Mercenary game. This means I can buy and sell weapons at their list price, so I have an issue.

I control an important flow of nuyen into the group. Living on the street, flow of money=skimming. I just need to know how much to skim off the top.

I was thinking 25% fo the list price. Normally the group is going to pull something like 40% of the total price from a dealer, right? So they're making 35% more than they should, if I take the 25% cut. What do you guys think?

I'm ok with your interpretation. Have fun.

thunderchild

Dec 13 2003, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE (moosegod)

I have Connected Lvl II for Sphynx's Mercenary game. This means I can buy and sell weapons at their list price, so I have an issue.

I control an important flow of nuyen into the group. Living on the street, flow of money=skimming. I just need to know how much to skim off the top.

I was thinking 25% fo the list price. Normally the group is going to pull something like 40% of the total price from a dealer, right? So they're making 35% more than they should, if I take the 25% cut. What do you guys think?

just make sure you tell the other players IN CHARACTER that your doing it, if the gm slips or they find out they might roleplay killing you for suckering them out of their money realy well.

Game2BHappy View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 04:54 PM Post #4
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 268 Joined: 30-March 03 From: Denver, CO Member No.: 4,355	Within our group, team members only take off only 10% or less off the top when dealing with their own team. Its to your advantage that they have the best gear.

Saintgrimm View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 04:59 PM Post #5
Target Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Dallas, TX Member No.: 5,494	I'd go with a 15 percent agreement, and I'd make sure that the other members knew. "Chummer, I'm doing the legwork here. I take the risk if the Star catches me. 15 percent for an old friend is a good deal" Then, if they really need something, you can always drop down to 10, 5, or 0 percent to cut and old friend a dern good deal "You took that bullet for me, man... the least I can do is help you get this gun you're looking for" or "Man, you did me one, now I'll do you one. This run, I'm only going to take a 5 percent operator fee. That's an extra 10 percent riding your pocketbook"

Frag-o Delux View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 05:30 PM Post #6
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316	Generally I never charge my friends, that is what other schmucks are for. My friends get it at cost. Including of coarse frieght, bribes and other incedentals, I wouldn't make any money off of the deal but I sure as hell wasn't losing money. They knew that though. On a few occasions I acquired some gear for players because they had doubts I could get it, and sometimes I would give it to them to prove I could and to spread the word of mouth I could get anything. Sometimes I did trades I'll give you X if you introduce me to Y. After awhile I was getting to know everyone in the shadows. At retirement I had close to 100 contacts. Not really a spoiler just some rambling about my character if you want to read it. [ Spoiler ] When I need some help they are always there for me. Picking up bar tabs, the odd surgery, or a new car when mine was torched. For me it was way more important that I had well equiped and trained team mates. Some of the newer players would show up and I would kit them out with the best I could get and it paid off in the long run. It kind of pissed the GM off because you had new players that had very little like a new character should and they would get teamed up with me and a few short runs later they could have some of the best gear in the game. They later would moan when they started new characters and my old character wasn't around to help and they had to fight for everything they wanted. That character now is retired as a fixer, his motto is "Anything, Anytime, Anywhere", and when you call him for something you say "I want X" because if you ask "Can you get me X" he takes it as an insult to his acquiring skills and hangs up on you. And everyone in the game knows it. Some guys show up after not playing for a few years still know it.

Kagetenshi View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 06:30 PM Post #7
Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802	Aren't your Contacts limited to 2X Charisma? ~J

Ol' Scratch View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 06:31 PM Post #8
Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890	I've never heard of such a rule.

Tanka View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 06:33 PM Post #9
Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715	Seriously... It just doesn't make sense. That means your Face could only have a max of 16 Contacts, 24 if 8 are of their race. (Elf with 8 Cha and Cultured Tailored Pheremones, 'natch)

Kagetenshi View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 06:39 PM Post #10
Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802	Maybe it's just a chargen rule... or maybe I'm just imagining things again. ~J

Ol' Scratch View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 06:43 PM Post #11
Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890	I think you are. Got a page reference? I honestly never remember hearing of such a rule. Ever.

Tanka View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 06:43 PM Post #12
Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715	I think you are. Lay off the drugs.

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Dec 13 2003, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE

I just need to know how much to skim off the top.

are you asking - What is a fair cut?

or

are you asking - How much can I take off the top while still maintaining a reasonable chance that they wont get mad if they find out I am taking a secret cut?

or

are you asking - How much can I take off the top while still maintaining a reasonable chance that they wont figure out I am taking a cut?

-3Threes

Kagetenshi View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 06:54 PM Post #14
Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802	Not there. I must've been drunk when I read the section. Which is odd, since I don't drink. ~J

Siege

Dec 13 2003, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)

Not there. I must've been drunk when I read the section.
Which is odd, since I don't drink.

~J

You may be remembering some house rules -- people have posted alternate contact rules based on things like:

x2 Charisma
Charisma + Etiquette or Negotiations or Persuasion

And so in.

-Siege

Dende View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 10:58 PM Post #16
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 21-November 03 Member No.: 5,837	I thought the chargen rule was what you could afford... I also seem to recall our GM limiting us to level 2 contacts unless we had A resources, but I think that was a house rule.

Siege

Dec 13 2003, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE (Dende)

I thought the chargen rule was what you could afford... I also seem to recall our GM limiting us to level 2 contacts unless we had A resources, but I think that was a house rule.

Yep, another house rule -- everyone gets two free contacts at start, level 1.

After that, it's something like 5k per additional level 1 contact, 10k for level 2 contacts and I don't remember the price for level 3 contacts.

-Siege

Dogsoup View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 11:05 PM Post #18
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 291 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 806	200K :nuyen: if Im not mistaken...

Dende View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 11:08 PM Post #19
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 21-November 03 Member No.: 5,837	Yup, that sound like what it was.

Diesel View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 11:10 PM Post #20
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-July 02 From: California Member No.: 2,955	Edit: No, 200,000 is right.

Yum Donuts View Member Profile	Dec 13 2003, 11:42 PM Post #21
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 7-December 03 Member No.: 5,883	or 100,000 :nuyen: but who's counting?

Lilt View Member Profile	Dec 14 2003, 12:51 AM Post #22
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 2,032	I'd have to agree with Yum Donuts here. My copy of SR3 says 100K.

Ol' Scratch View Member Profile	Dec 14 2003, 12:52 AM Post #23
Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890	Is it an early printing or a newer one updated by errata? I don't remember any errata to that effect either way. Mine has 200,000 nuyen.

Tziluthi View Member Profile	Dec 14 2003, 12:59 AM Post #24
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 596 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,112	The new printing that I have says 200K :nuyen:. How peculiar.

Lilt View Member Profile	Dec 14 2003, 01:30 AM Post #25
Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,965 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Edinburgh, Scotland Member No.: 2,032	Umm :dead: ... Well a luxury lifestyle is a bit like a friend for life... Yes? :P

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