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post Sep 8 2008, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 7 2008, 07:40 PM) *
Even given a hundred years or so, a human who undergoes regular Leonization can live for a hell of a long time. As far as fear goes, I thought the fact that elves could expect to live 300+ years wasn't common knowledge?


Leonization is very expensive, and only an option for few. Being born with pointy ears can happen to anyone.

While the exact lifespans of elves are not common knowlege, there are elves in the 6th world that appear to be in their early thirties despite being 58. Even half again a normal human lifespan could make a huge social difference...and, as we all know, it's a heck of a lot longer than that.

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And now imagine what a free spirit could do with its lifespan- they're theoretically immortal.


Not a lot of them, though. That said, I wonder what happens when happens when a mommy human and a daddy spirit from the Elemental Plane of Cannoli love each other very much?


QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Sep 7 2008, 07:52 PM) *
RC adresses problems such as fully mature orks being treated as kids,


WTF? If someone weighs 300 lbs. and can crush cans on his forehead without emptying them first, most people won't card him. (This applies in the 5th world, too.)

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there's the problem that no one born as an ork will live long enough to see retirement baring leonization (and we all know how many orks can afford that, right?), a jail sentence of 10-20 years can easily mean they'll never get out of the box again while for a free spirit, it may mean next to nothing and so on.


How often to high-powered free spirits get arrested, anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

That said, there is an obvious problem here. Five years in the clink is a noticable chunk of time for a human, an age for a troll, and slightly less than the amount of time an average Immortal Elf spends on decorating the second bathrrom.
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post Sep 8 2008, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE (SpasticTeapot @ Sep 8 2008, 03:24 AM) *
While the exact lifespans of elves are not common knowlege, there are elves in the 6th world that appear to be in their early thirties despite being 58. Even half again a normal human lifespan could make a huge social difference...and, as we all know, it's a heck of a lot longer than that.


Fluff in earlier editions actually suggested that elves simply stopped aging at around age 20 and that it theoretically would set in again after about 400-500 years.

So people might very well get the mistaken impression that elves don't age at all.


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Not a lot of them, though. That said, I wonder what happens when happens when a mommy human and a daddy spirit from the Elemental Plane of Cannoli love each other very much?


I don't think spirits can have offspring.
Even if they have the Realistic Form power and therefore appearently normal and functional reproductive glands, i'd say that they are infertile, as the power merely mimics physical being's properties, instead of actually duplicating them.


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WTF? If someone weighs 300 lbs. and can crush cans on his forehead without emptying them first, most people won't card him. (This applies in the 5th world, too.)


This still doesn't mean they can get a driver's license or vote at age 13, even though they might be mature enough to do so.
And being physically that powerful at a certain age will cause a lot of trouble, too.
Imagine going to school as a human in an ork neighborhood.

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How often to high-powered free spirits get arrested, anyway? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


You do have a point, with only about 5000 free spirits worldwide, but among sapient rights activists (time that they use this term in the books, metahuman rights activist is starting to sound politically incorrect), it is an issue what constitutes cruel and unusual punishment for a spirit, so one might as well view it from the other side.
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post Sep 8 2008, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE (Rasumichin @ Sep 8 2008, 03:49 AM) *
I don't think spirits can have offspring.

No Jubruq...yet.
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post Sep 8 2008, 04:01 AM
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Leonization is very expensive, and only an option for few. Being born with pointy ears can happen to anyone.

While Leonization and other age rejuvenation therapies are expensive, they're not prohibitively so. Anyone who's rich enough can afford the treatment out of pocket; people who aren't quite that rich could take out a mortgage and pay for it that way. Given the number of people I know who live in homes valued over $750,000, I have no doubt they could finance an age rejuvenation treatment.
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post Sep 8 2008, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE (Sir_Psycho @ Aug 22 2008, 08:11 AM) *
Oh contraire,
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Well...

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What I want to know is what happens after that.
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post Sep 8 2008, 09:45 PM
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someone had better press N
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post Sep 8 2008, 10:07 PM
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Along the lines of the Spoilered conversation, what did Fastjack find when he went to check on "an old friend's grave"?
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post Sep 8 2008, 10:17 PM
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Ever seen Dark Star?
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I haven't but the synopsis reminds me of a Douglas Adams book I read about a cruise ship.
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post Sep 8 2008, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (BishopMcQ @ Sep 8 2008, 05:07 PM) *
Along the lines of the Spoilered conversation, what did Fastjack find when he went to check on "an old friend's grave"?

Probably a bunch of graffiti, or a Goth Couple making out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Sep 9 2008, 12:54 AM
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So you think he went to the meatworld location? That would be an interesting but gruesome run, find an excavate Captain Chaos. The ramifications in the shadow community would reverberate for years.
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post Sep 9 2008, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE (Aaron @ Sep 8 2008, 04:17 PM) *
Ever seen Dark Star?

Ah yes the great movie with the beach ball monster, and the bombs that want to go boom. Pop Corn Popper Helmets and muffin pans for spacesuit breastplates.....

WMS
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post Sep 9 2008, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (SpasticTeapot @ Sep 8 2008, 03:24 AM) *
That said, there is an obvious problem here. Five years in the clink is a noticable chunk of time for a human, an age for a troll, and slightly less than the amount of time an average Immortal Elf spends on decorating the second bathrrom.


While veering off topic, this very point was being made in my game by one Eric von Slaeger, an alderman in Seattle and a member of the Humanis policlub (Remember, we're not anti-metahuman, we're just pro-human.) In college, he gained fame with his documentary on Elf Posers and went on to do PR work before entering politics. THERE, his current angle is trying to introduce legislation that would unlist Metahumans as Humans.

"An Ork only lives to be, on average, thirty years old. To require them to attend school until they're well past the middle of their lives is hardly fair, but, under the UCAS constitution, we can't allow them to leave school early, since all metahumans are promised equal educational opportunities. Meanwhile, we have Elves soon to retire at sixty-five, when research shows that they'll live to be several hundred years of age, perhaps even immortal! Can our strained budget truly support Elves living off the public dole for two HUNDRED years?! But, again, we cannot de-list them, due to the Constitution. Clearly, new laws must be considered that balance the specific need of each race... seperate, but equal."

Heck, we know that there's still research being done for a 'cure' for being Metahuman, and there're several treatments via surgery or bioware to "Normalize" metas. Luckily, it turns out that few things are as enjoyable to a gaming group than to beat the ever-leaving drek out of a racist gang. Fantastic badguys.

Bacl on topic.

1) Did we ever find out where the Crash Virus originated from? I still lay odds on it having germinated on the Wal-Mart computer network (Second largest in the world behind the Department of Defense, largest company in the world until the Resource Rush, income in 2000 as great as a 2055 Megacorp, utterly *vanished* after the Crash hit... all the parts are there.)

2) Who is Fastjack, exactly? Was he a part of Echo Mirage? We know he was born in '99, IIRC, is male, and we have a picture of him (Thanks, SR 1!) but that's about all. (And the '99 thing might not be him, in retrospect. I remember *someone* was born in '99, however. But not who. Ack!)

3) The Shadowtalk from the Aztlan Sourcebook ... we know who most everyone was, or at least have a clue, aside from The Watcher. But who were the two people who watched the meeting invisibly and uploaded it?

4) Where did CatCo's Seraphim go?

5) Where did Horizon get all the money from for such a huge expansion, especially since they're listed as a private, rather than public-traded, company? That means no stock options for cash infusions.

I'll add a few more after I wake up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Sep 9 2008, 08:39 AM) *
*snip "awesome" racist dork*

Did you ever know that you're my hero?

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1) Did we ever find out where the Crash Virus originated from? I still lay odds on it having germinated on the Wal-Mart computer network (Second largest in the world behind the Department of Defense, largest company in the world until the Resource Rush, income in 2000 as great as a 2055 Megacorp, utterly *vanished* after the Crash hit... all the parts are there.)

Does make sense.

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2) Who is Fastjack, exactly? Was he a part of Echo Mirage? We know he was born in '99, IIRC, is male, and we have a picture of him (Thanks, SR 1!) but that's about all. (And the '99 thing might not be him, in retrospect. I remember *someone* was born in '99, however. But not who. Ack!)

'Jack says that he was born in '99, and in that same document (his, "And This Is The World" post at the opening of the history section of the BBB) claims that while he wasn't involved with the Echo Mirage crew (he wished he was though), he knew many of them and they were good friends.

How you doin' post Gencon? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Sep 9 2008, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Sep 9 2008, 08:39 AM) *
alderman in Seattle and a member of the Humanis policlub

Does Seattle have a Board of Aldermen? I thought that was a Chicago-area thing.
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post Sep 9 2008, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (Crank @ Jun 17 2008, 05:50 AM) *
I thought that was answered like 10 years ago in the Dragon Heart Trilogy.

He became a pair of delicious brown nipples?
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post Sep 9 2008, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Sep 9 2008, 06:10 PM) *
'Jack says that he was born in '99, and in that same document (his, "And This Is The World" post at the opening of the history section of the BBB) claims that while he wasn't involved with the Echo Mirage crew (he wished he was though), he knew many of them and they were good friends.

In the novel Night's Pawn the protagonist is aware of the the rumors about FastJack and Echo Mirage but dimisses them as he (claims to) knows every actual EM member by name.
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post Sep 9 2008, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE (ravensmuse @ Sep 9 2008, 04:10 PM) *
Did you ever know that you're my hero?

How you doin' post Gencon? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Egads! Someone who knows me! Shhhh!

(And I missed the Shadowrun card game that Saturday. FOOL of a took that I am!

Alas, alas.

At any rate, yeah, took a few days to recover, since, you know, driving = HELL, but I made it.

Currently in a downtime, trying to get my computer to play TF2 again (Stopped on Saturday due to some memory thing and been unable to restart since!), so, fiddling around with Shadowrun stuff. Need to see what's in the freelancer queue, see if maybe I can get picked up this time. (Last two stabs, I was happy with one, not so much the other. Third time's the charm, eh?)
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post Sep 9 2008, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE (Wakshaani @ Sep 9 2008, 05:21 PM) *
Egads! Someone who knows me! Shhhh!

(And I missed the Shadowrun card game that Saturday. FOOL of a took that I am!

Alas, alas.

At any rate, yeah, took a few days to recover, since, you know, driving = HELL, but I made it.

Currently in a downtime, trying to get my computer to play TF2 again (Stopped on Saturday due to some memory thing and been unable to restart since!), so, fiddling around with Shadowrun stuff. Need to see what's in the freelancer queue, see if maybe I can get picked up this time. (Last two stabs, I was happy with one, not so much the other. Third time's the charm, eh?)

Hey, you're doing better than I am when it comes to freelance work. Of course, I haven't tried, but I don't think I'm quite at that level yet.

Good to hear you survived though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Dunno if this is the place, but what happened to Puck after Unwired. He seemingly dropped off Jackpoint and the matrix (as NetCat noted)...?
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post Sep 10 2008, 01:40 AM
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There's some passages from Dunkelzahn's Will I've always wondered about:

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To George "Locomotive" Fenamore, wherever he is at present, I sadly bequeath the locked steel box number 412 from my private vault at the Manhattan citibank Depository. The box is not to be opened until he deems it absolutely necessary, or until my comrade manages to successfully survive another Double Tuesday. I pray the darkness ends for you someday.


Who is he, and what was in the box?

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Again, what's in the boxes?
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post Sep 10 2008, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE (OneThirtyEight @ Sep 9 2008, 05:40 PM) *
Again, what's in the boxes?


There's only one other reference to a box like that, that I know of:
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Not quite what you were hoping for, but maybe it's a helpful clue?
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QUOTE (Cain @ Sep 9 2008, 08:45 PM) *
There's only one other reference to a box like that, that I know of:
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Not quite what you were hoping for, but maybe it's a helpful clue?


Okay, now I'm REALLY curious.

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QUOTE (OneThirtyEight @ Sep 9 2008, 09:40 PM) *
There's some passages from Dunkelzahn's Will I've always wondered about:



Who is he, and what was in the box?



Again, what's in the boxes?

Why, the last Rickroll of course.

Sorry, sorry.
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So far, we haven't seen another "Double Tuesday", I hope...
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