 Reading in Astral Space, Aftershock novel |
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  Jun 22 2008, 08:07 PM
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Free Spirit  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,944 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920  |
I just finished reading Aftershock. According to the novel on page 249, astral projecting characters can now read the printed word from the astral plane.
Screw-up or rise in the mana level? |
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Jun 22 2008, 08:09 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
Screw up I'd say - novels usually are crap anyway with regards to rules, SR-consistency, and often simple logic as well.
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Jun 22 2008, 08:37 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
screw up.
rulebooks ALLWAYS superceede novels, and the rules say:"no. nope. . nuhu!!" |
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Jun 22 2008, 08:39 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Screw-up. You read emotions in the Astral Plane.
And emotions write themselves onto you. For a cheap high, hit a Rave in the Astral! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) |
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Jun 22 2008, 10:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Germany, Regensburg Member No.: 5,709 |
Surely screw-up. See Street Magic, Page 112:
QUOTE Even if the book in the above example was already flipped opn to the correct page by someone in the physical world the text on the page is all but impossible to read on the astral.[..] If the book were a significant tome wohse words have had an emotional impact on many people, the text may have enough emotional resonance to be understood from the astral plane. So perhaps you can understand the bible in astral space or the koran, but not a typical novel. I stopped buying Shadowrun novels a while ago, one of the reasons to do so was, that they simply had much too often nothing to do with Shadowrun... |
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Jun 22 2008, 10:11 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
I just site it as a reason that the books should be written by Shadowrunners like us. *Begs for attention to own writing in Sig*
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Jun 22 2008, 10:37 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
simple remedy for that: use orichalcum ink, the same used for tattoo-magic *g*
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Jun 22 2008, 10:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Germany, Regensburg Member No.: 5,709 |
I'm not sure if this works... You don't SEE in astral space, so the actual FORM isn't that important. I'm not really sure about this, but I'm not sure if single letters, for example, could be read in astral space. Of course, I would treat any book written with orichalcum ink as "emotionally charged".
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Jun 22 2008, 10:47 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
and if the ink does not suffice, just put in some light spell . . maybe one that keeps the book in good shape ^^
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Jun 22 2008, 10:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Germany, Regensburg Member No.: 5,709 |
What does a spell have to do with the content of the book?
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Jun 22 2008, 11:02 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
<sigh> Just to throw some fuel on the fire, check out the astral pigments in Arsenal.
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Jun 22 2008, 11:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Germany, Regensburg Member No.: 5,709 |
Interesting, didn't notice them. I wonder what the limiting factor is... Why can you only write short sentences?
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Jun 22 2008, 11:21 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
haven't read up on arsenal just yet . . good find Ancient one ^^
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Jun 22 2008, 11:28 PM
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Dumorimasoddaa Group: Members Posts: 2,687 Joined: 30-March 08 Member No.: 15,830 |
The amount of paste Id assume or the amount of emotion you can put in the paste.
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Jun 22 2008, 11:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 12-October 03 From: Germany, Regensburg Member No.: 5,709 |
Don't think that the pigments have anything to do with emotions, amount seems to be an idea, but then it would be either a very small amount or you have to write rather big (which again doesn't fit to the tatoo version).
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Jun 22 2008, 11:31 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 23 2008, 12:21 AM)  haven't read up on arsenal just yet . . good find Ancient one ^^ Find, hell. I wrote the verdamnt thing. |
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Jun 23 2008, 12:39 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Too bad about that screwup. It was a good novel otherwise.
I liked it at least. Best of the most recent novels, with "Fistful of Data" being a nice rip off of the "Magnificent Seven Samurai" and it's decendants. |
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Jun 23 2008, 01:39 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (tisoz @ Jun 23 2008, 04:07 AM) I just finished reading Aftershock. According to the novel on page 249, astral projecting characters can now read the printed word from the astral plane. Screw-up or rise in the mana level? Need not be a screw up, could be just a GM's/writer's house rule. Remember that one rule which everyone likes to quote whenever they want to come up with their own rules, the one that I really dislike? Yes, that one. Or it could be AH's astral inks, although it is a little early in the timeline for that. Arsenal is post 2070, Aftershock is IIRC 2063. |
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Jun 23 2008, 01:53 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,468 Joined: 5-December 06 From: Somewhere in the Flooding, CalFree Member No.: 10,215 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 22 2008, 09:39 PM) Need not be a screw up, could be just a GM's/writer's house rule. Remember that one rule which everyone likes to quote whenever they want to come up with their own rules, the one that I really dislike? Yes, that one. Or it could be AH's astral inks, although it is a little early in the timeline for that. Arsenal is post 2070, Aftershock is IIRC 2063. Actually Aftershock is in the 2070s, as Max is using a commlink and is referred to as a hacker throughout the novel. |
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Jun 23 2008, 03:27 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (Trigger @ Jun 23 2008, 09:53 AM) Actually Aftershock is in the 2070s, as Max is using a commlink and is referred to as a hacker throughout the novel. Indeed, you are right. It is 2070. I must be getting old. |
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Jun 23 2008, 08:16 AM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jun 23 2008, 01:31 AM) Find, hell. I wrote the verdamnt thing. psh, show off *g* |
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Jun 23 2008, 01:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 830 Joined: 3-April 04 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 6,215 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Jun 22 2008, 10:27 PM) Indeed, you are right. It is 2070. I must be getting old. Don't worry about it. We'll ALL be old in 2070. I hear if you read Worlds Without End on the astral plane, your soul devours itself in despair... |
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Jun 23 2008, 01:33 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Well, I, for one, hope to see some good quality work in the novels is CGL is able to get some going.
Or translate some of the German-Only novels into English. Or vice-versa for our chummers on the other side of the Pond! |
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Jun 23 2008, 01:54 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
you really DON'T want to read the german novels . . most of them are crap in my eyes . .
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Jun 23 2008, 02:22 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 28-November 05 From: Zuerich Member No.: 8,014 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jun 23 2008, 03:54 PM) you really DON'T want to read the german novels . . most of them are crap in my eyes . . Indeed. |
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