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Chrysalis
post Jul 2 2008, 02:28 PM
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Greets,

I was wondering if there have been any bicycles statted for SR4e or could such be made with the quirky rules from Arsenal in making a vehicle.

Would there be a way to take pedal power into speed as well?

So any way to make mountain, trekker, hybrid, or racer bikes?

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post Jul 2 2008, 02:36 PM
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You mean, other than suicidal tendencies?
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post Jul 2 2008, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 2 2008, 05:36 PM) *
You mean, other than suicidal tendencies?


I resemble that comment!

I was just out for a nice 20 mile bicycle trip, so besides it raining bullets what about bicycle messengers that are in as ubiquotus in the current Seattle landscape as Starbucks.

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post Jul 2 2008, 02:48 PM
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They probably switched to Dodge Scoots.

Which probably attract as many bullets. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 2 2008, 02:51 PM
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Bicycles are better at playing dodge the traffic with. Hard to run a scooter down steps as well. Well... you could, but it would be dead at the bottom.

So could a bike, but that's why steel carbon steel rims were invented for and of course you can also have a shock absorbing front fork.



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post Jul 2 2008, 02:57 PM
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This very topic was hashed out a couple of months ago. Here's the link if you want to take a look.
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post Jul 2 2008, 03:13 PM
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I've always thought of the messenger bike runner - used by an assassin, thief or really whoever - was a fantastic idea.

You could get through crawling traffic in daring daylight hits dodging between cars, ducking into tight alleys to lose aerial surveillance or various other fantastic high-adrenalin action.

Just remember, helmets, brakes, and shocks are for noobs, and you - messenger bike riding shadowrunner - are no noob.
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:03 PM
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Plus bicycles are extremely light weight and can be broken down into their component parts for quick stowage with practice. Brian Wood explored the action-packed life of gun-toting NYC bike couriers Hong Kong-action style in his graphic novel series The Couriers. Good reading for Shadowrun fans.
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post Jul 2 2008, 08:06 PM
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bah, get yourself some cyber-feet with built in rollerblades (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 3 2008, 02:53 AM
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Is it possible to pedal on a bicycle while at the same time operating a SMG in full auto mode without falling over due to recoil?
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post Jul 3 2008, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jul 2 2008, 09:53 PM) *
Is it possible to pedal on a bicycle while at the same time operating a SMG in full auto mode without falling over due to recoil?


Mount two SMGs coaxially on the handle bars so that you always shoot in the direction that you're peddling and you never have to let go of the bike.
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post Jul 3 2008, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE (Wesley Street @ Jul 2 2008, 09:57 AM) *
This very topic was hashed out a couple of months ago. Here's the link if you want to take a look.

Ouch. *holds head* You could have warned us (the general public) that the first 3 or so pages were good, and after that it would give you a migraine trying to figure out if people had gotten back on subject yet.

(In high school I drove a 78 Buick Electra, a friend drove a 68 Lincoln, and another friend drove a 70's... big yellow tank thing. All would have good "armor" values, particuarly compared to modern cars, but if all three of us had climbed up on one of their roofs, the cars would have still had a bad day. After reading that bicycle thread I needed to say my 2c, but I don't want to bring it back to life.)

I would like to see stats for bicycles. If for no other reason than completeness, but I also think some cool runner ideas could come out of it.
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post Jul 3 2008, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE (AngelisStorm @ Jul 2 2008, 10:50 PM) *
Ouch. *holds head* You could have warned us (the general public) that the first 3 or so pages were good, and after that it would give you a migraine trying to figure out if people had gotten back on subject yet.


Heh. Welcome to Dumpshock, dude. 10% wheat, 90% chaff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 3 2008, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jul 2 2008, 10:53 PM) *
Is it possible to pedal on a bicycle while at the same time operating a SMG in full auto mode without falling over due to recoil?


You could keep it simple and force a reaction roll if the recoil exceeds the shooters riding skill pool.
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post Jul 3 2008, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (Tabula Rasa @ Jul 3 2008, 09:26 AM) *
You could keep it simple and force a reaction roll if the recoil exceeds the shooters riding skill pool.

Recoil compensators. Lots of recoil compensators!

Electric firing, heavy barrel, gas-vents...
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QUOTE (CanRay @ Jul 3 2008, 10:44 AM) *
Recoil compensators. Lots of recoil compensators!

Electric firing, heavy barrel, gas-vents...


For sure, but try to avoid the gyro! Maybe you could have a bike with gyro stabilization or something so you can go hands-free firing bursts from two machine pistols splattering people and fruit stands while you zoom through a farmer's market crowd after your mark.
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post Jul 3 2008, 03:58 PM
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There are very easy answers to this. Rickshaws, tandems, and unicycles.

Remember to honk first.

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post Jul 3 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (Chrysalis @ Jul 3 2008, 11:58 AM) *
There are very easy answers to this. Rickshaws, tandems, and unicycles.

Remember to honk first.


It would be pretty sweet to have a motorcycle and sidecar but the sidecar is actually set up with a .30 cal machine gun that pivots on a 180 degree arc opposite the driver side.
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post Jul 3 2008, 04:52 PM
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fully possible using arsenal iirc...
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post Jul 3 2008, 05:44 PM
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Very possible! And highly suggestable for Bike Gangs on raids!

Remember to wear the German Coal Scuttle Helmets with the Spike on top! You'll look like a dork otherwise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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especially if your a ork or troll (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 3 2008, 05:59 PM
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Trolls don't need the spike, they got Horns! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Jul 3 2008, 06:47 PM
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heh, true...

btw, orcs on motorbikes and trolls on trikes. anyone else get a wh40k vibe?

and yes, if a group of those showed up on the rear view, i would be flooring it...
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post Jul 3 2008, 07:04 PM
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Da Red onez go fasta.
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post Jul 3 2008, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE (Wounded Ronin @ Jul 2 2008, 10:53 PM) *
Is it possible to pedal on a bicycle while at the same time operating a SMG in full auto mode without falling over due to recoil?


Bicycles have a fairly significant amount of resistance to falling over while in motion. You see, those two wheels act as gyroscopes. That's why you can see a bicycle or motorcycle careening down a hill upright even though the rider is missing. You'll note that when a BMX trick rider kicks his bike away for a fancy landing, it will often land upright (although usually rotated around its wheels due to resistance to the wheels' rotation)

I can't say your accuracy would be that great but odds are the recoil is less a factor to crashing than the distraction of trying to shoot.
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