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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
Another idea I had during my second read-through of Unwired: we have the Nuke program now, which is a normal matrix attack but instead of assigning damage to a condition monitor, it can reduce Response and/or System (or Pilot for constructs). The Disarm program can be used to mess with someone's Firewall. But, I didn't see a way to reduce someone's signal. The downside that I can see is that if you're in their node and mess with their signal, you might get dumped (which would be bad) but if they're intruding into your node and you reduce their signal to zero, it could be a form of targetted jamming.
Could probably just call the program ECM and have it roll Electronic Warfare + ECM vs. Firewall + ECCM, net hits by the offensive party reduces the signal of the defensive one. Thoughts? Seems like it'd be of limited use, but I could conceive of some situations where it would be cool. And, since it targets a specific person's system, you could effectively jam them without needing to jam everyone in an area or needing a directional jammer ... not that directional jammers are that hard to come by I suppose. |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 ![]() |
I'd say theres no need. Having a program that jams a specific person would be pointless... Oh, I hack into your commlink, I attack your signal, it drops from 2 to 1 and now I am dumpshocked because I'm out of your signal range.
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 ![]() |
Just take Tin Snips to his antenna. There, Signal goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down!
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,141 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 2,048 ![]() |
One thing mentioned is devices. I have this question if non-neural commlinks are more common why bother with the commlink when you can just simply shut off her cluster of devices. AR gloves, goggles, microphone all dead, hard to hack afterwards.
To stay on the thread why can't a hacker just trip the node that the commlink routes through is using a stolen MSP authentication and simply deny service? Every single other node is going to bounce that signal around denying service to that network ID until it can be verified which could be hours away. The best way though is knowing how to shutdown a commlink remotely (we do that now with stolen mobile phones). -Chrysalis |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 ![]() |
If you net enough Nuke hits on their System I assume you get to jack out before the thing comes crashing down. Is Nuke permanent program damage? Because if you corrupt and dump their system, I'd like to see them re-boot that.
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
They need to reboot to "undo" Nuke damage, yeah.
QUOTE ("Tarantula") cI'd say theres no need. Having a program that jams a specific person would be pointless... Oh, I hack into your commlink, I attack your signal, it drops from 2 to 1 and now I am dumpshocked because I'm out of your signal range. Well, yes, I indicated that in my first post. I think, however, it could be an interesting tactic to disconnect people who have hacked your node. Then you don't get dumped but they might. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 392 ![]() |
They need to reboot to "undo" Nuke damage, yeah. Well, yes, I indicated that in my first post. I think, however, it could be an interesting tactic to disconnect people who have hacked your node. Then you don't get dumped but they might. Except that there are already rules for disconnecting people from your node (BBB 223) and I will point out once again that Jamming on the Fly (Unwired 105) is extremely effective (particularily since EW cannot default). |
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
But, Jamming on the Fly covers an area. If you need more of surgical strike then it may not be appropriate.
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 ![]() |
There are Smart Jammers.
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
Do you mean directional jammers or is there something in Arse that I'm forgetting about?
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 ![]() |
Arsenal, p. 58 - Jammers that target specific Nodes.
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
Awesome. That'll do in a pinch. I still think there's a place for software to do this, too, but as long as there's something there in the rules to play with, I'm happy. Thanks!
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 ![]() |
Awesome. That'll do in a pinch. I still think there's a place for software to do this, too, but as long as there's something there in the rules to play with, I'm happy. Thanks! well, conveniently weight has been abstracted away. just declare that the hardware is software via GM fiat. problem solved. |
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
That's pretty much what I'll do, actually. I'll just have to come up with a snappy name.
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 392 ![]() |
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
Awesome.
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Mr. Johnson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 ![]() |
I hate to come in late on this one, but it doesn't really matter what your device's Signal rating is if the operating system doesn't think it can go that far.
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Technomancer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 ![]() |
True; which provides a different way of looking at it: this software wouldn't actually reduce the target's signal, it would just make the OS think the signal is lower than it is and force the dropping of connections,
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 ![]() |
something like what some real life isps have started to do to kill p2p traffic then.
or maybe a router table poisoning... |
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