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[Cang]

I am making this post in hopes of having a cleaner thread about it.

Likes:
I always love qualities and lifestyles. I also like the metavarient and the infected section.

Dislikes:
No offensive to people who do things i cannot, but the art in the metavarient area was somewhat not clear on the looks (probable because of the lot of them in few pictures. Also, i am going to have players begging me to play out of the world characters because "its in a core book" haha. But i also like the variety so i can't really complain there to much.

Questions:
I know that drawing ED and SR parralels get more and more unfashionable as time goes on but would i be too off base if i guessed the that pixies and free spirits (or changelings) could be considered the winglings and obsidians come back respectively. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

[Ancient History]

Pixies, maybe. Obsidimen, no.

[Cang]

Well i knew i was stretching it with the Obsidimen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

[Cold-Dragon]

I enjoyed pretty much everything in there (even if it was something I didn't have much interest in). Lots of good stuff to throw a loop somewhere.

My only real complaint I can think of is the aura of mystery around some things, like the drakeforms - I understand no one really knows much about it, but one could have made it a bit more mysterious in detail than just 'we don't know jack'.

Still, leaves room for personal house-storytelling, so its a small complaint.

[Wanderer]

Pixies, maybe. Obsidimen, no.

Well, admittedly Granite Shell looks terribly like Obsidimen metagenes activating... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)

[Ancient History]

Except obisidimen don't breed. They have Other Ways to reproduce.

[User McUser]

Also, i am going to have players begging me to play out of the world characters because "its in a core book" haha. But i also like the variety so i can't really complain there to much.

Except that Runner's Companion is NOT a core book. It's essentially all optional rules, and as they say like a million times in that book "ultimately it's up to the game master's discretion."

[Wanderer]

Except that Runner's Companion is NOT a core book. It's essentially all optional rules, and as they say like a million times in that book "ultimately it's up to the game master's discretion."

Just like everything else in every other rulebook of any RPG, basically, corebooks most definitely not excluded. I find this attitude, that corebooks are sacred, but supplemental reulebooks are ephemeral, endlessly silly. As far as I'm concerned, everything can be houseruled, but rulebooks are rulebooks. I see no difference whatsoever between SR4, and Arsenal, Street Magic, Augmentation, Unwired, or Runner's Companion. I buy books to use them.

[Johnny Jacks]

Pixies, maybe. Obsidimen, no.

Come on. Windlings are 18 inch tall elves with dragonfly wings who can see astrally and have a great Karma Step. Pixes are 45cm (18.27 inch) tall elves with dragonfly wings who can see astrally and have above average Edge. Except for Concealment and Vanishing they're identical.

[Ancient History]

You realize you're talking to the guy that wrote up pixies, yaar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Johnny Jacks]

You realize you're talking to the guy that wrote up pixies, yaar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Actually, I thought you only wrote up Infected, my bad. You're my hero by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif)

[Ancient History]

My chunk of RC was Infected, Drakes, Sapient Critters, Shapeshifters, and Karma-based CharGen. You may feel free to bitch and kvetch at me for any of the above.

[MJBurrage]

Windlings = Sprites has been clear since Paranormal Animals of Europe.
Obsidiman, being living stone, may still need a higher mana level to return.

But what about T'skrang? They should exist again by now.

[NightmareX]

VITAS = no t'skrang (or obsidimen)? That's the assumption I've always worked with.

[Large Mike]

Seriously, AH? I thought they were written by perfect robots from the future. I thought that's why they are treated like the Torah, rather than a helpful guide.

Perfect robots from the future.

[Ancient History]

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[Johnny Jacks]

But what about T'skrang? They should exist again by now.

Well, they didn't have significant stat boosts in Earthdawn, so a SURGE'd human would be pretty close.

[Malicant]

My only real complaint I can think of is the aura of mystery around some things, like the drakeforms - I understand no one really knows much about it, but one could have made it a bit more mysterious in detail than just 'we don't know jack'.

There is not much mystery to Drakes. Well, on the metagame informtion side of things.
Dragons needed servants, because the plan using IEs failed big time, so one of them came up with the method of creating Drakes. Some time later they discovered (more like stumbled upon) a method to create Drakes that breed true, saving a shitload of work. End of story.
This has been covered (minus some minor details with no real relevance) in Dragons of the Sixth World.

[Synner]

We will be revisiting some of mysteries and speculation about the various races/species and other strangenesses in Running Wild. Runner's Companion was pretty full as is.

[Synner667]

Except obisidimen don't breed. They have Other Ways to reproduce.

Erm...
...Since "breed" and "reproduce" both relate to producing offspring, how do you consider them to be different ??

[Synner667]

Just like everything else in every other rulebook of any RPG, basically, corebooks most definitely not excluded. I find this attitude, that corebooks are sacred, but supplemental reulebooks are ephemeral, endlessly silly. As far as I'm concerned, everything can be houseruled, but rulebooks are rulebooks. I see no difference whatsoever between SR4, and Arsenal, Street Magic, Augmentation, Unwired, or Runner's Companion. I buy books to use them.

I've always taken the guide that it's a core book when it gets referred to by the rules and/or scenarios.

And I've always felt that any RPG that needs supplemental books to be usable/complete is pretty rubbish, as the core game in the core rulebook can't stand on its own.

[Synner]

For what its worth, Catalyst considers Runner's Companion a core rulebook (same as Street Magic, Augmentation, Arsenal and Unwired). Though many of the character options and rules are optional, many are not.

[Grinder]

Erm...
...Since "breed" and "reproduce" both relate to producing offspring, how do you consider them to be different ??

Obsidimen don't have that bees and flowers stuff. New Obsidimen are created within a Liferock and not by filthy sex. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Isath]

Maybe I am getting you wrong Synner667 (neighbor of the Synner) but SR4 is perfectly playable with only THE core-rulebook. While the "expansion" core-rulebooks might be core rules as well, they are not really needed - they are nice to have though.

[Blue eyes]

Finished the book, liked it alot not really anything to complain about, besides maybe some of the art but otherwise it's perfect imo! Great job guys!

You realize you're talking to the guy that wrote up pixies, yaar? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Great job on that AH, it was a joy to read and see pixies/windlings get the spotlight they deserve in the 6th world (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Looking forward to reading more about these newly introduced races in Running Wild.