Question On Bows, And The Firing Rates Thereof Options

[Tarantula]

I disagree. If you are using the power on the arrow you aren't using the bow. Otherwise, you could not buy a bow, and just "use" arrows with quickdraw.

Note the "single". If you draw and use an arrow, you can't use a bow, as that is no longer using a single weapon.

[MJBurrage]

That is clearly not the intention of the power's wording. They do not want you using one test to draw two guns, swords etc.

You do not use a bow without an arrow, so the power clearly covers the whole 5-step process I listed. If it does that it would be absurd for it to not also do steps 2–5 afterward.

[Tarantula]

It would be absurd, yes, and I have said as much. But, by the way it is written, it is not allowed. If you want to house rule it, you can (and have said you do) but by RAW it does not cover reloading the bow.

[MJBurrage]

Please explain how you derive your interpretation from the rule, because I really do not see it.

[Tarantula]

Ok, first, the quickdraw rules, sr4, 137. Allows you to draw a pistol or pistol sized weapon, and fire it immediately if you pass the test.

Going to the adept power, SM, 179. Lets you use those quick draw rules on any weapon, not just pistols. Don't need 2 actions to draw&ready and attack, it all happens as part of the attack.

It is not a combination ready weapon action and fire weapon action. But its own action that is seperate.

If they had chosen to word quickdraw as combining the ready weapon action, and the fire weapon action, I would agree with you. But it specifically states draw and ready, and not just ready.

Since your bow is already drawn, you can't draw it again. And if you use it on the arrow, you can't use the bow, since it states a single weapon.

[Platinum Dragon]

I'm gonna have to side with MJ on this one: arrows fit the definition of missile weapon.

[MJBurrage]

If you use the Quick Draw power on a weapon you make the quick draw check and if you succeed you draw and use said weapon in one simple action. Using a bow implicitly involves an arrow, and using an arrow implicitly involves a bow. Therefore the power does lets you do either as a single simple action. The later "single weapon" clause would prevent the double arrow trick, but it does not prevent the proper use of an arrow. You are focusing too much on one phrase rather than the meaning of the entire power.

My explanation stands as a proper reading of RAW for the interaction of bows and Quick Draw.

[Jaid]

at worst, it could be interpreted to mean that you either need to have the bow drawn already or the arrow drawn already in order to use quick draw adept power... after all, if you already have the bow ready, you aren't quickdrawing it, you're just quickdrawing the arrow and using the arrow (which happens to include putting it into the bow).

if you want to go with the ludicrous assumption that when you quickdraw an arrow and use it, you can't use it with a bow, then you must also assume that you can't quickdraw a knife and throw it if you're wearing hardliners.

[Tarantula]

at worst, it could be interpreted to mean that you either need to have the bow drawn already or the arrow drawn already in order to use quick draw adept power... after all, if you already have the bow ready, you aren't quickdrawing it, you're just quickdrawing the arrow and using the arrow (which happens to include putting it into the bow).

if you want to go with the ludicrous assumption that when you quickdraw an arrow and use it, you can't use it with a bow, then you must also assume that you can't quickdraw a knife and throw it if you're wearing hardliners.

Thats not using the hardliners though. I would allow that, just the same as I would allow someone with bow in hand to quickdraw and throw their arrow. I think the intention and wording of the power is one use, to get your weapon into play quickly, not for repeated use on bows and arrows as a special case.