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post Sep 21 2008, 04:36 PM
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DWC had a question about improving sensors. Looking at Arsenal you can improve the capacity of the sensor array in you vehicle or drones. Pluse you have device ratings, and software for sensors. I've think for the rating on the vehicle stats it's an avarage of the total ratings.

This is what I sent DWC:
This is what I'm thinking about Improved Sensor Array increases your capacity for more sensors which is only half of the sensor rating, so with the basic array your sensor rating is 2 (half the devices round down). The second half is the firmware/software which is Sensor firmware (rating 1-6) avilability rating x 2, cost (rating 1-3) rating x 200 (rating 4-6) rating x 500. So again basic array with rating 2 firmware equals a rating 3 sensor rating.

I'm rethinking this to an avarage for the stat rating. So you have the simple rating for what ever and you all so have all the detail of you want it. Which I like the ballance of both.

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post Sep 21 2008, 04:40 PM
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Well, whoever has the most computer+edit can program the mask (don't forgot to get VR for that spiffy +2). Ralph probably has the best disguise skill at 10 dice, but hits on the computer+edit test give him bonus dice for it.
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:05 PM
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(rolled in ic thread.)
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (Tarantula @ Sep 21 2008, 05:40 PM) *
Well, whoever has the most computer+edit can program the mask (don't forgot to get VR for that spiffy +2). Ralph probably has the best disguise skill at 10 dice, but hits on the computer+edit test give him bonus dice for it.


The problem is your bonus hits are capped by the disguise skill of whoever is doing the programming. At least from the way the BBB reads (unless it's changed in the errata?).
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:13 PM
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Did she just bust us scanning her? shit do we have enough fire power there if it goes down now?
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:19 PM
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Don't think so. She knows someone did something astrally, probably told by the spirit bound to her. But it's not like anyone has done anything illegal, so hopefully the most she can do (atm) is have them escorted out of the grounds and then have her security improved.

On the other hand.... this means killing her will /not/ be as easy as hoped. Unless someone can find a cracked demolitions skillsoft at as high a rating as possible (ideally with the upgrade which reduces the amount of skillwire space it uses) and then some foam/plastic explosives & a detonator.
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (Oenone @ Sep 21 2008, 08:11 PM) *
The problem is your bonus hits are capped by the disguise skill of whoever is doing the programming. At least from the way the BBB reads (unless it's changed in the errata?).


Not sure if it changed. 2 bonus dice are better than none though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif) .
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:22 PM
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well there is also the good line of bull-sh*^t that could save it all, We are on a campus with maigc classes too.

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post Sep 21 2008, 06:26 PM
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"Uh, could you not tell Gamma Zeta Kappa that you saw me? I'll not make it into it if they know you caught me!"
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:31 PM
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"Uh, could you not tell Gamma Zeta Kappa that you saw me? I'll not make it into it if they know you caught me!"


Hehe, I think a better line would be, "A friend suggested I take one of your classes to be more well rounded, and I just wanted to sit in and see what you were like. Sorry."

Actually shouldn't the Spirit have 10 Dice? Spirit's skill rating = force, Spirit's Intuition = force, so Force 5 = 10, Force 4 = 8, etc.

I am kinda curious as to whether or not the spirit materialized, since that would tell us if she could see it without it needing to do so (Astral Perception).
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:47 PM
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Can you even tell if you're being assensed? I know you have to look at someone for a while, but I thought it was a passive check like a perception test. Reading the existing flows rather than actually casting a spell. Or do you need to become astrally active for it?
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Shalimar @ Sep 21 2008, 01:31 PM) *
Actually shouldn't the Spirit have 10 Dice? Spirit's skill rating = force, Spirit's Intuition = force, so Force 5 = 10, Force 4 = 8, etc.

I am kinda curious as to whether or not the spirit materialized, since that would tell us if she could see it without it needing to do so (Astral Perception).


I didn't see were it said that skill was equal force so Just did perception 3, the spirit didn't materialized so it's eather asteral perception or Astral sight.

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post Sep 21 2008, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Oenone @ Sep 21 2008, 02:47 PM) *
Can you even tell if you're being assensed? I know you have to look at someone for a while, but I thought it was a passive check like a perception test. Reading the existing flows rather than actually casting a spell. Or do you need to become astrally active for it?


Maybe the Elemental is just set to tell her about anyone that could be a threat, and in its interpretation anyone who is astrally active and looking at her is a threat? It'd still have to tell her, in which case it does so by materializing (if she can't astrally perceive)
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (Oenone @ Sep 21 2008, 01:47 PM) *
Can you even tell if you're being assensed? I know you have to look at someone for a while, but I thought it was a passive check like a perception test. Reading the existing flows rather than actually casting a spell. Or do you need to become astrally active for it?


I think you can tell, there would be tell tail signs from the observer like there aura, and there body language. In must the same way Pre-Attack Indicators and Pre-Attack Postures work.

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post Sep 21 2008, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (DWC @ Sep 20 2008, 08:51 PM)
--Friday April 11th, 2070 at 0030 - Dante's Inferno, Seattle--

<<"At the risk of stereotyping, is it really much of a risk that a doctorate robotics R&D engineer with a cranial commlink is awakened?">>

I can't be the only one who saw this coming, nor the only one who fell out of his chair laughing when it did.

As for assensing, when you astrally percieve, you are dual-natured. There's no reason for anyone to be doing that in a classroom, so it's kind of like pulling out a camera and taking pictures. No harm in it, but lol WTF r u doin?
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post Sep 21 2008, 07:08 PM
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I wonder if it's not actually telling her, but the mage who summoned it and then they're sending the update via her internal commlink. That could explain why it's not manifested.
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post Sep 21 2008, 07:10 PM
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Really it's much simpler then that she has the Astral Sight quality. Ralph could tell that the Spirit talked to her directly.

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post Sep 21 2008, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE (bmcoomes @ Sep 21 2008, 02:56 PM) *
I didn't see were it said that skill was equal force so Just did perception 3, the spirit didn't materialized so it's eather asteral perception or Astral sight.

Brent


Well, with a result of 5 hits on the assensing test, Ralp would know for certain, though if she has any cyber at all we'll know she is an adept if not a full on mage. Though the fact that she has a bound force 6 elemental makes the run worth quite a bit more than the 44k being offered initially, if she is full awakened, it'd be worth a heck of a lot more just for the Hit portion of the run. I wonder if the Johnson knew and was lying when he said she didn't have any offensive or defensive capabilities, or was just ignorant of it.
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post Sep 21 2008, 07:13 PM
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The other posability is that his intel did not know or she did have it yet. They even may have lacked the ability to check that side of things.

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post Sep 21 2008, 07:13 PM
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wel i could probly put some holes in her from 4 or 5 k feet. Im not sure the elemental could detect me from that far away.
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post Sep 21 2008, 07:16 PM
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Shit, sorry guy's, been mad busy all day.

I meant to scan the room with Magic Sense before Ralph flipped Astral, sorry.

Astral forms can Manifest rather than Materialize. I don't suppose it really has to do so visibly, it could just Manifest sound in her ear.

It can certainly tell when someone starts Astrally Perceiving, they become Dual-Natured.

Don't panic, If Ralph can't bullshit her I can handle the spirit.


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post Sep 21 2008, 07:35 PM
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Looks like we might need to rethink our approach for the hit team then. Because I don't know if Noowan is up to handling a spirit of that force and even if he is then it's not going to make for a clean job.

We might actually be best swapping Etoile and Tom around. So the sniper can make the hit, with Noowan to guard against the spirit finding him and Winston to get them the hell away from the area.

Or I guess we could just have Truth hose her down with fire from a drone and then hopefully just pick her off with a rapid assault using the team set up we've already decided on?

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post Sep 21 2008, 07:41 PM
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I'm not really worried, though Gecko throwing down with a force 6 Spirit in the midle of class might blow the op. As Brent pointed out, its a magical campus, people with the ability to astrally perceive would be more common here than otherwise.

I think this might rework our planning of things just a tad. You'll need some more significant skill on the wetwork to off the Elemental unless Noowan wants to gang it with all of his bound spirits. Charlie could pop it with a single spell, but she is on the other run. I think you might want to switch the kill to Truth's drones on her ride back from the Island with Noowan's bound spirits as back up.
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post Sep 21 2008, 08:00 PM
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Attacking her while she's on the boat is going to be tricky, because if we're meeting at 4pm she'll be finishing work fairly soon after and on the boat back before the data-steal team has even had chance to get into position.

Hmmm won't attacking her with that many bound spirits and whatever magic Noowan can add leave some pretty major astral traces? Which might be something of a problem in terms of the 'getting away with it' side of things. Plus it's going to be very very messy. Especially if she's actually the mage who summoned them, because she'll be adding spells and maybe more spirits to the mix. We'd have to be nearby to do it and that means more chance of pursuit.

The more I think about it the more I like the idea of planting explosives inside her house and then relying upon chunky salsa to turn her into paste. Sure it's really really obvious, but we can trigger it from a distance and it shouldn't leave much in the way of links back to us providing DD's matrix cover goes well.
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post Sep 21 2008, 08:02 PM
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Snipe her? Elemental won't be of much use against a sniper kill.
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