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bmcoomes
OK and Welcome to the OOC Thread for 'Phoenix Rising'. This is the thread for rules questions, requests, master character sheets, and any other out of character discussions. I perfer to have dice rolls in the In Character (IC) thread just wrapped in *spoiler* tags. It keeps thing simpler. Any time you spend any karma, or add any new gear to your character please update your master sheet here. If something isn't listed on your sheet in this thread then you don't have it. Don't worry about tacking damage on it do that on the fly.

Welcome to the Shadows OOC thread for Greenhorns In Seattle. This is the thread for rules questions, requests, master character sheets, and any other out of character discussions. I prefer to have dice rolls in the In Character thread just wrapped in *spoiler* tags. It helps me keep track of which roll goes with which post. Any time you spend any Karma, or add any new gear to your character please update your master character sheet here. If something isn't listed on your character sheet in this thread then you don't officially have it. Don't worry about updating the sheet every time you take damage or anything like that though. Just keep track of that on a scratch pad or better yet a hardcopy of your character sheet that you keep printed out. I'll be doing the same just to make sure everyone says on the same page.

As of right now players are: edited to current players
Oenone - Etoile, female human Cybered Former Bodyguard/general social misfit
Cizh - Gecko, male ork Water/Parkours Adept
Deadman - Noowan, male elf Mystic Adept (Summoner)
Little Johnson - Tom Green, male human Sniper Adept on hold due to computer issues
DWC - Truth, male human Overwatch/Surveillance Drone Hacker

NPC:
"Riptide"

Posting Rules

Just like almost everyone else on the board I'm gonna be stealing Redjack's posting structure, so here you go.

All your posts should begin with a time/date stamp in orange, detailing location, time, and date.

- - "Speech color=cyan, optionally enclosed in quotes"
- - <Coms (subvocal) color=violet>
- - <Coms (Text) color=yellow>
- - Thoughts color=darkkhaki and in italics
- - Memories, flashbacks, dreams color=green and in italics

Spoiler all private actions, but if its something really private, or you're setting up a backstab, PM me.

If you have any questions about the use of BBcode please ask them here.

For plot-important NPCs (Contacts, Prime Runners, and so on), don't assume their reactions or post them. Pretend they're PCs interaction-wise.

I'd like to use http://invisiblecastle.com/ for all the dice rolling. Don't worry to much about modifiers to start with I'll handle then for you and as get into it you can start using the standard.

The first run will be highlighting most areas so we all can get some air under our wings, both for you and me.

Ok, lets have at it.
Brent
Coldhand Jake
"Coldhand" Jake Hall, Orc Bartender

Appearance and pic: Coldhand Jake Hall

Backstory
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Character Sheet
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Fuchs
DD: Hacker/Secondary Face

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Pictures:
DD in Seattle
DD going through a few AR files
DD in front of the Nyen Lang
crizh
Here's a final draft of a RAW Granny...

Granny, Missions Character

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Gecko

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I'll update this post here as I change things...
Shalimar
Charlie Decker Wizkid Mage

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Update: 12 Karma Added (6 bought for 30k), 10 Karma Spent (5 to join Singing Moon Coven, 5 for Orgy), 945 nuyen.gif Saved (1k spent on Orgy Formula, 5,050 spent on Rating 3 Agent (Personality Soft + Pocket Mage Library Rating 3), 3,055 spent on glasses and ear buds)
Update: 1 Karma bought (5k), 5 gained through downtime work - Spent 8 Karma to Group Initiate (Oath Ordeal) - Masking
Update: Fenced sensory items to Ochir for 1,440 (Glasses, Contacts, Earbuds)
Update: 12 Karma Added (8 from run 2, 4 bought) - 10 Karma spent to Group Initiate (Thesis) - extended masking
Oenone
Edit number many - In which case I'll put it back.

If the MBW and Razors are counted as a suite would that then reduce the essence loss and price as per the section in Augmentation?

If so I'll need to do a minor gear change to spend the extra cash.... Erm on a lifestyle I think. As I totally forgot one when working her out.... I've also done a minor skill swap as I forgot MBW gives a dodge bonus which I should really take advantage of given her poor body.

Etoile - Cybered former bodyguard and general social misfit..
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This should now cover the right amount of Nuyen and is as far as I can tell my final draft. If I've missed anything let me know and I'll fix it asap! Fixed the lack of Locksmith, added the augmented values for her stats in brackets for easy reference and did a tiny contact adjustment to make her fixer better but the Snitch worse. Both of whom will get names and backgrounds in her background when I post it.
crizh
OK, made some minor changes.

Took Savate instead of Boxing, fits better with the Parkour theme. Range for a Supersquirt is rubbish so I'm going with a modded Ingram SmartgunX which has much better ranges and is explicitly silent.

I'm still working on Gear and Background stuff.

Sorry, haven't done a PhysAd in years and obviously making up a character from scratch takes more time than just modding a pre-gen.
bmcoomes
Crizh: Oh your doing fine, it's looking good.

Oenone: it was fine that you had it here.

thanks,
Brent
Divine Virus
I can get you the character sheet tomorrow, or have I already lost my spot in this game?
bmcoomes
No you have not lost your spot, You are one of the ones I'm waiting on.
Shalimar
Is Charlie the only Magic, or is the Magic Adept summoner still in?
Coldhand Jake
Sorry, I failed to have listed that his custom commlink w/hot sim module was a cranial implant. I corrected that. He carries the throwaways jacked into his wrist, to broadcast whatever legal BS is needed in high security areas...his own high-powered internal machine is subscribed to the shitty one through DNI by default, so he can access all his good stuff, and when desparately needed, he'll bring the powerhouse implant onto Active or Passive to get some -real- work done. I should also mention that his contact who gave him access to his fine new headware is dead, so he's got no easy path to new upgrades and such. I'll be tightening up his numbers for easier reference today.
bmcoomes
Shalimar: it's looking like your the only magic, I'm going to have to make real life contact with my friends they don't seem to be checking there email at all. So like I said eariler it's first come first served.

Coldhand Jake: thats what I thought, and I remember reading that your one contact was dead.

Thanks,
Brent
Shalimar
If anyone else wants to do some magic I wouldn't think its a bad thing, Charlie is a little weak in combat, detection, well almost everything. Most of her spells are the type of thing a teen would find cool as opposed to being all that useful to a runner.
Coldhand Jake
Okay, since I don't know your style, I'll make sure to go ahead and note these on my sheet, as carried. My throwaway comms are Meta Links running Vector Xim. CHEAP ASS. They run standard utilities, Browse, Edit, etc, and contain squat useful. My Agent, tends to run on my implant, and serves as constant overwatch for hacks. My cyberarm, eyes, and ears are DNI-only. All wireless functions are OFF, and service RFIDs disabled. My cranial comm is my internal PAN hub, and must be hacked before you can get at my chrome.

This is stuff I usually keep in a saddlebag of my Scorpion, so as not to have to deal with the techno-primitive. This was mostly because I got sick of working with people without the decency to get a datajack, or in the middle of the damn woods. When I learn how many people I'm working with, I usually stock up to that number in basics.
* X sheets of electronic paper.
* X cheapass image-link/sound-link glasses/earbuds combos. Simple cameras and mics too.
* X pairs of AR gloves.
* X applications of Trode Paste.
* X extra throwaway comms with COLD sim modules for people who need them.
I'm a well-established guy with two girlfriends, both Awakened, who love to look over my shoulder. I'm used to this kind of situation.

And for me, in the bike:
* Satellite Uplink
* Holodisplay

I have a tendency to spend alot on downloads. ARE, video games, books, Linguasofts, Datasofts, Mapsofts, Knowsofts. No skillwires, yet, but I love the easy-access of Matrix info, and abuse it.

I load my shotgun with flechettes, it stays at home, or in the saddlebag when travelling. Same with the stun-baton. I carry the shock gloves and heavy revolver, it gets regular, legal ammo.
Oenone
Out of interest will the party have shared history?

Are we recently brought together for a job? If so should we have a shared contact who arranged it all?
Coldhand Jake
QUOTE (Oenone @ Sep 11 2008, 02:41 PM) *
Out of interest will the party have shared history?

Are we recently brought together for a job? If so should we have a shared contact who arranged it all?


Jake and DD are turning out to be at least acquaintances...we're trying to figure out if there's more. There's always the way I brought my last team together...they all subscribe to the same online service...like Second Life, or, well, here.
Tarantula
Heres my Adept Ralph for you.

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bmcoomes
I can work it both ways, if you guys work somthing up like DD & Jake I'm fine with that realy that make my job easier.

Thanks,
Brent
Fuchs
I am ok with either.
Oenone
Out of interest which city are we set in?
bmcoomes
QUOTE (Oenone @ Sep 11 2008, 04:52 PM) *
Out of interest which city are we set in?


We will be in Seattle, and the first run will hightlight most of the areas of the 4'th edition. So that I'm up to speed.

thanks,
Brent
Shalimar
I actually see this being Charlie's first run. It would be very easy to hook her in with Jake though given his contacts and desire to get back into the shadows. Knowing his intention to get back into the business Mei or Calista let Jake know about a young mage that is looking to break into the shadows. They set up a meeting between the two through Charlie's contact Michael. Jake (and DD if you want to include her) met with Charlie and decided to take her into the crew jake was building up.

It would be easy to bring in the two adepts into the group through Mei and Calista's incredible connection ratings. That would put Jake, DD, Ralph, Charlie, and Gecko together. This would be the first team run, but it would start out with us being a crew with an idea of each other's abilities.
Coldhand Jake
Well, Jake's basically an L.A. fixer, so alot of Cali runners know him and the girls. He has a wide variety of minor extended contacts, and it wouldn't be surprising if all the characters were within only 2 or 3 degrees of contact from him.

Horizon execs, corporate special forces, gun distributors, Rat shamans, chaos mages, gangers, porn directors, gamers, bartenders, bouncers, performers of both stage and stripper pole, Vory gun runners, physad social circles, hackers, old school deckers, the L.A. nightlife, CAS transplants, VR addicts, cyber/bio furries, neopagans and urban primitives, pack-minds, ... that's just people he could call without asking for a LTG number. Of course, those are like Loyalty 0 acquaintances...but names move fast in the shadows.
crizh
Gear and Lifestyle done.
Fuchs
Picture
bmcoomes
That would work for me, then all we have to get on board for the gourp would be Etiole (Oenone), unkown name (little Johnson) which is an Adept Sniper so he would tie-in with your guys and could be the one who knows Etiole, and waiting for Divine Virus's character which I think is also an Adept. I'm going to have fun with all these Adepts. devil.gif

Thanks,
Brent
crizh
QUOTE (Coldhand Jake @ Sep 11 2008, 09:04 PM) *
Jake and DD are turning out to be at least acquaintances...we're trying to figure out if there's more. There's always the way I brought my last team together...they all subscribe to the same online service...like Second Life, or, well, here.


Miracle Shooter. Gecko is definitely an avid player and almost certainly a very high scorer.
Oenone
Etoile is likely to be fairly new to Seattle, having come over from France not so long ago (at least she will have once I've finished the background). But it's entirely possible that she's been heard of by a few people, if only because she has all the charm of a bunch of flowers wrapped around a block of ice.

Heh with all the adepts floating around I'm almost wishing I'd made up my El Mariachi themed gunslinger adept!

But then again that would have required considerably more work on the chargen and writing up an entirely new background rather than adjusting the one I had in mind.

Edit - For what it's worth Etoile (I think) means Star in French and while ICly she speaks perfect French I OOCly barely know any... So please don't expect me to get it right or post in the actual language.
Fuchs
DD uses a french accent when running - she's from Lousiana.
bmcoomes
I've been reading all the hoopla about some rules, which in of it self is fine. I wanted to set a ground rule, for those who are cleaver (which again is fine) expect the opposition to learn your tricks too. So in other words if you get to do it so does the enemy. Now back to your regularly scheduled arguing. smile.gif

Thanks,
Brent
Shalimar
I edited Charlie to fix a few math mistakes I made in the skills area.
Fuchs
Having a (more or less, or for the bigger part) pre-formed team could work out well, and Jake looks like he'd be a good choice to be the "nexus" - almost a mini-fixer.

Just an aside: So far, I didn't see a lot of negotiation skills in the team. I didn't pick that skill with DD since she got a few bad (or suboptimal) deals in her history, and being a shrewd negotiator seems a bit out of character for her.
crizh
Tweaked Powers a little.

Hmm, and gear a little...
Little Johnson
Sniper Tom Green

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DWC
Overwatch/Surveillance drone hacker. Still working on finalising gear and fleshing out contacts.

Background
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Stats
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bmcoomes
Crizh & Little Johnson: with your Improved Ability Adept Power you have them at to high of a rating. As per Errata "This adept power increases the rating of a specific Active skill by 1 per level. A skill’s maximum modifed rating equals its
base rating x 1.5. Improved ability must be purchased for a specific skill, not a skill group." In other word what ever your skill for that power is you can only add 1.5 x the skill rating. example a skill at 4 can only gets +2 dice for a maxium of rating 6, or a rating 6 skill gets +3 for a maxium of rating 9. If you guys can fix that it would be great thanks.

Brent
Divine Virus
Damn, never noticed that but it effects my character as well. For a skill rating 5 do we round up or down?
bmcoomes
So are you guys getting worried about what I'm going to throw at you with such a large group?

Divine Virus: I think it's round down, I'll double check.

Brent
crizh
Never noticed that before, sorry.

Dang, but that's a gigantic Nerf. It almost makes Reflex Recorders better than Improved Ability.


[Is it not round up unless otherwise specified?]
Tarantula
In the skills section where it describes that for regular skills (SR4, 109) it says that 10 is the max with aptitude, meaning its round down as 7/2=3.5 and 7+3=10.
Shalimar
How is everyone getting rating 4 fake SINs? I thought the availibility capped us at rating 3 (12F)? Was thre an errata or something?
Tarantula
Yes, errata is (3xRating)F.
Divine Virus
Yup, in the Errata.
I suppose since I am the driver it falls to me to buy the vehicles. Will 1 GM Bulldog van fit everyone, or will I have to buy something larger?
crizh
Further Power tweakage complete.

I think.
Shalimar
QUOTE (bmcoomes @ Sep 12 2008, 12:00 PM) *
So are you guys getting worried about what I'm going to throw at you with such a large group?

Divine Virus: I think it's round down, I'll double check.

Brent


10 Runners does seem like a large group. Maybe we're just going to go to a Miracle shooter tournament rotfl.gif
Fuchs
QUOTE (Divine Virus @ Sep 12 2008, 06:31 PM) *
Yup, in the Errata.
I suppose since I am the driver it falls to me to buy the vehicles. Will 1 GM Bulldog van fit everyone, or will I have to buy something larger?


Depends on if there are trolls in the group or not, I'd say.
Divine Virus
Yick, ten runners?

Guys, what am I going to do about mass transpo? Brent, will 10 runners fit in the back of a bulldog van? If not, does anyone have any suggestions for a mass transpo vehicle? (Current vehicle plans are 1 mass transpo, 1 escape car, and a bike for myself if I can afford it after).
Tarantula
Zugmachine w/trailer? rotfl.gif
bmcoomes
There are no Trolls, so one Bulldog should be fine.
Nope we will not be going to a miracle shooter tournament, but will be shooting something.
But with most of the team already knowing each other on some level I'm fine with pooling some money for a team ride. With in reason of course, I don't need a rolling command center with a bunch of runners in it, hmm...or do I?

Anywho,
Brent
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