Shalimar
Sep 15 2008, 07:13 PM
I bet your regretting having so many awakened characters now that we are at the astral butt-sniffing phase of the run with all of us sniffing around like dogs. As a note, Charlie does have her sustaining focus maintaining her increased reflexes spell at force 3. Emotionally she is nervous, but excited at the prospect of a job.
Oenone
Sep 15 2008, 07:23 PM
@bmcoomes (or erm would you prefer us calling you Brent as you sign your posts that way?) How should we handle being assensed? Check out behind spoilers and then post the replies ourselves? Or just spoiler tag the majority of the information and then have the relevant info passed on by you?
Zaranthan
Sep 15 2008, 07:25 PM
Random thought that just occurred to me: what's everyone's stance on empathy software? Personally, I prefer to treat emotitoys as nothing more productive than high-tech Furbys, as the pointless escalation of dice pools on both sides brings the game ever closer to sillyness (and further away from glitches, which are half the fun!). You shouldn't be able to fast-talk somebody into giving you their pants just because you've got a fancy keychain.
Oenone
Sep 15 2008, 07:27 PM
I don't mind it for the judge intentions function, but I agree about them being a bit stupid for the intended function. I could quite easily have given Etoile one and she'd have been up to an 11 DP for some social tests, which just seems plain wrong for a low charisma uncouth character. Even one who is using skillsofts to help herself fit in....
bmcoomes
Sep 15 2008, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (Oenone @ Sep 15 2008, 03:23 PM)
@bmcoomes (or erm would you prefer us calling you Brent as you sign your posts that way?) How should we handle being assensed? Check out behind spoilers and then post the replies ourselves? Or just spoiler tag the majority of the information and then have the relevant info passed on by you?
You can make reply post to, but I send a PM with the info of hits to the assessor.
As far as empathy software goes I can see how it can give you insight on how it's like to live in the other persons shoes, but talking people out of there pants I don't think so.
thanks,
Brent
Oenone
Sep 15 2008, 09:27 PM
Eugh. I just re-read the description for the Full FFBA suit.
I didn't know it came complete with a hood and gloves, which makes it almost useless for wearing with a cocktail dress.
Infact it makes it almost entirely useless for Etoile as her normal outfit doesn't work with a hood either.
Little Johnson
Sep 15 2008, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (bmcoomes @ Sep 15 2008, 01:57 PM)
As far as empathy software goes I can see how it can give you insight on how it's like to live in the other persons shoes, but talking people out of there pants I don't think so.
thanks,
Brent
For the record. ... if shes hot it only takes 1 success to talk me out of my pants. if shes not hot...it takes 6-D successes where D is equil to the number of shots ive had.
PS D can also be the number of weeks its been since last threshhold was met.
Oenone
Sep 15 2008, 09:37 PM
You also forget the throwing adept method of using an emotitoy to get someone out of their pants. It's a plan which also involves a concussion and a pair of scissors....
@Brent Am I okay to make a minor gear adjustment to sort out her armour issue? I've edited to stick the actual change I've worked out under a Spoiler, to save on space.
[ Spoiler ]
I would be dropping Full FFBA for Half, which gives 700 Nuyen. Then buying the PPP Forearm Guards:, Shin Guards and Leg and Arm Casings The net result is about the same armour ratings for the same price, only now she can actually wear the gear discreetly which was the initial idea behind the choice of gear.
In her dress it'd work out at Ballistic 8 / Impact 5 (encumbering as per Ballistic 6 / Impact 4) and in her Jacket it'd be Ballistic 8 / Impact 7 (encumbering as Ballistic 6 / Impact 6).
Providing you're okay with it that is? I know it's somewhat late to make that sort of change, but it only just hit me reading a post about the FFBA having a hood how unsuitable it was.
bmcoomes
Sep 15 2008, 09:48 PM
Oenone: Yeah I'm fine with that.
ha, ha, I know it don't take much to get me out of my pants (at lest for my wife).
Brent
Fuchs
Sep 15 2008, 09:50 PM
I usually try with lots of success to forget that emotitoys exist.
Tarantula
Sep 15 2008, 10:11 PM
Is the hood required for the FFBA suit to work? For social areas, can we take off the hood/gloves, for say a -1/-1 penalty for both?
bmcoomes
Sep 15 2008, 10:14 PM
that sounds reasonable.
Brent
crizh
Sep 15 2008, 10:16 PM
Does Arsenal not say that they are optional? It's pretty much just fluff really.
bmcoomes
Sep 15 2008, 10:19 PM
I think the same thing, the hood and gloves are optional.
Brent
Tarantula
Sep 15 2008, 10:20 PM
Totally optional? Even better!
Oenone
Sep 15 2008, 10:25 PM
Well... Technically it doesn't mention anything about that in RAW but it would make some degree of sense.... Edit infact I know in the offline game I run I let players with the Full suit wear it as any of the lesser options, simply by not putting the whole suit on.
But regardless it turns out this way actually gives Etoile a two point boost boost to her Impact scores, which is handy for close combat which is her main focus. Although it is one point worse for ballistic scores in both her sets of clothing which sort of evens it out.
DWC
Sep 15 2008, 11:07 PM
Matrix Info for anyone who scans Truth.
[ Spoiler ]
A casual scan reveals a mid-range commlink in Passive Mode. His profile is as unremarkable and uninteresting as he is. It lists his name as Bryent Hilliard, a single private investigator from Reno. His interests are listed as photography and auto racing, and the profile is jammed with photos of Seattle landmarks, street scenes, the downtown skyline, swarms of people touring pit lane at race tracks across North America, and lots of shots of races in progress.
Astral info
[ Spoiler ]
Truth is healthy, in good spirits, a little bit bored, and a lot less distracted than he looks. There are the typical traces of pollutants in his system, though they are somewhat lower than average.
His head has several fairly invasive cybernetic implants, along with his right forearm being a replacement, and no bioware. Essence is 2.445 for those who get it. He's non Awakened.
Coldhand Jake
Sep 16 2008, 08:41 AM
Emotitoys are simple. I had one on another character of mine, I had her built with a linked Agent, Virtual Person, Personality software, and a commlink. I called her "Sumomo". And the fact that she could IM me and tell me that she thought someone was lying never even came up... more that I let her, a six inch tall genie doll, drive my car...
If you don't know the source material, search for "Sumomo" and "CHOBITS".
*laughs just remembering that scene*
Fuchs
Sep 16 2008, 12:47 PM
Alphabetically sorted links to character sheets:
Shalimar -
Charlie, female human Wizkid MageColdhand Jake -
"Coldhand" Jake Hall, male ork Hacker/Bartender Fuchs -
"DD", female human Hacker/FaceOenone -
Etoile, female human Cybered Former Bodyguard/general social misfit Cizh -
Gecko, male ork Water/Parkours AdeptDeadman -
Noowan, male elf Mystic Adept (Summoner)Tarantula -
Ralph McCleary, male human Investigative AdeptZaranthan -
"Tick-Tock", male human Face/Astral MageLittle Johnson -
Tom Green, male human Sniper AdeptDWC -
Truth, male human Overwatch/Surveillance Drone HackerDivine Virus -
Winston Carraway, male human Driving/Throwing AdeptPMed to Brent, in case he wants to copy it to the first post in the ooc thread.
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (Fuchs @ Sep 16 2008, 01:47 PM)
Is this the right sheet for Tom? It still seems to have the pre-errata totals.
bmcoomes
Sep 16 2008, 03:32 PM
I think it is, I haven't seen any others. But he new, so he needs to tweak it still.
thanks,
Brent
Shalimar
Sep 16 2008, 03:49 PM
QUOTE (Coldhand Jake @ Sep 16 2008, 03:41 AM)
Emotitoys are simple. I had one on another character of mine, I had her built with a linked Agent, Virtual Person, Personality software, and a commlink. I called her "Sumomo". And the fact that she could IM me and tell me that she thought someone was lying never even came up... more that I let her, a six inch tall genie doll, drive my car...
If you don't know the source material, search for "Sumomo" and "CHOBITS".
*laughs just remembering that scene*
How much did all of that cost?
Oenone
Sep 16 2008, 05:12 PM
Bit late to ask this, but I don't suppose anyone knows if Paris still even exists as a city?
Because it hit me I've used a city I have no clue what the background for is.... Hell I'm barely aware what's going on anywhere in Europe aside from maybe that little bit about Europort...
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 05:25 PM
I seem to recall it being mentioned in Emergence so I think you're OK.
Oenone
Sep 16 2008, 05:28 PM
Why yes, it does indeed. In the vaguest sense, but enough to confirm yes the place is there and uhm so is the Eiffel Tower and something called the International Seers Guild who are based there. Which implies it's still a fairly major city. Phew.
Coldhand Jake
Sep 16 2008, 06:18 PM
QUOTE (Shalimar @ Sep 16 2008, 09:49 AM)
How much did all of that cost?
My records have me spending 23,550. But, that didn't include my OS or Program software
Laptop Persocon
--------------------------------------------------
Emoti-toy mini-drone 6
Mini-drone sensor suite <camera, microphone, motion sensor>
Personality software “Plum/Sumomo�
Virtual Person Software
Fairlight Caliban
Custom OS 6/6
All Common Use and Hacking Programs at 6
Agent 4 w/Fuzzy Logic
bmcoomes
Sep 16 2008, 07:08 PM
For Ochir to get tacsoft rating 4 it will take on average three to four weeks and would coast 12,600:nuyen:
Roll at three weeksThanks,
Brent
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (bmcoomes @ Sep 16 2008, 08:08 PM)
For Ochir to get tacsoft rating 4 it will take on average three to four weeks and would coast 12,600:nuyen:
Roll at three weeksThanks,
Brent
That would be for a legal version. For a cracked version from a pre-existing or newly acquired Warez contact it would be [Data Search + Browse (24, 1 Combat Turn)].
If he doesn't already know a Warez group he can find one with [Data Search + Browse (8, 1 Day)].
Coldhand Jake
Sep 16 2008, 07:21 PM
QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 01:19 PM)
That would be for a legal version. For a cracked version from a pre-existing or newly acquired Warez contact it would be [Data Search + Browse (24, 1 Combat Turn)].
If he doesn't already know a Warez group he can find one with [Data Search + Browse (8, 1 Day)].
That's 12 seconds, for Jake. Ask the right man, Crizh.
Shalimar
Sep 16 2008, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (bmcoomes @ Sep 16 2008, 02:08 PM)
For Ochir to get tacsoft rating 4 it will take on average three to four weeks and would coast 12,600:nuyen:
Roll at three weeksThanks,
Brent
For a rating 4 anyone who is to benifit from it would need 8 inputs...for us non-cybered folk that seems like quite a bit. Can anyone suggest how Charlie could participate in something like that?
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (Shalimar @ Sep 16 2008, 08:22 PM)
For a rating 4 anyone who is to benifit from it would need 8 inputs...for us non-cybered folk that seems like quite a bit. Can anyone suggest how Charlie could participate in something like that?
Simrig.
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 07:49 PM
QUOTE (Coldhand Jake @ Sep 16 2008, 08:21 PM)
That's 12 seconds, for Jake. Ask the right man, Crizh.
Sorry.
You're there, you could always chip in if the Fixer says it's a no go.
Shalimar
Sep 16 2008, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (crizh @ Sep 16 2008, 03:48 PM)
Simrig.
Yea with the simrig she could connect in, but what senses woud she provide? Do regular senses count for it when using a simrig? With the simrig and glasses she could give her sight, low light, enhanced vision, smartgun, and sense of smell. Thats only 6 unless taste and touch count which I would kind of doubt. Its enough for a rating 3 though.
Tarantula
Sep 16 2008, 08:09 PM
They only count if you're actually using them to perceive the guy, so unless you plan to be touching an tastin everyone all the time.....
DWC
Sep 16 2008, 08:13 PM
Unwired lists audio, video, and olifactory, along with things like low-light, but omits touch and taste, for understandable reasons. Licking walls doesn't help you kill people.
Getting everyone to 8 channels is pretty easily doable, it just takes some planning.
Shalimar
Sep 16 2008, 08:13 PM
Then yea, I think rating 3 would be about the best everyone could benifit from, and that would be a strectch for a lot of us.
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 08:19 PM
As I understand it if you don't have enough sensor channels you are downgraded to the Rating your number of channels will support but everyone else that does have enough channels gets the full rating.
As it would only cost an extra 500
there is no reason not to buy the highest Rating.
DWC
Sep 16 2008, 08:22 PM
You're not downgraded. You're dropped completely.
Shalimar
Sep 16 2008, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (DWC @ Sep 16 2008, 04:22 PM)
You're not downgraded. You're dropped completely.
Which was my initial reasoning for suggesting a lower rated system.
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (DWC @ Sep 16 2008, 09:22 PM)
You're not downgraded. You're dropped completely.
Yup, I was indeed full off crap.
However, 8 channels ain't that hard. Looking at my sheet I've got 11 or 12 depending on the situation.
Shalimar
Sep 16 2008, 10:11 PM
So what do Jake's security recommendations boil down to for Julie? She has 5k-6k to implement any of it. I'll take anyone's suggestions for that matter.
bmcoomes
Sep 16 2008, 10:47 PM
Well if everyone is conformable we can move on to the Mr. J meet.
Thanks,
Brent
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 10:49 PM
Having looked at our gear, everyone that has a Simrig can easily manage 8 Sensor Channels but more than half of us don't have one and they have an availability of 12.
Almost everyone can manage 6 or could with one or two borrowed or newly purchased sensors.
[edit]
Having looked at the gear tables in Arsenal, in a mad twist of stupidity, the most effective way to improve the number of Sensor Channels you provide is to buy a Transys Steed motorized wheelchair, 4000
and just a dash for availability so we could just nip out to the shops and buy half a dozen.....
How cool and edgy would we look riding into the secure facility sitting in a small herd of wheelchairs?
Sub-zero man, sub-zero.
bmcoomes
Sep 16 2008, 10:56 PM
Yeah, at best it would take two days to get Simrigs for the rest of the team.
Brent
crizh
Sep 16 2008, 11:10 PM
I'm pretty much ready for the next scene if we can assume comms have been sorted out.
Is it DD or Jake that has a Warez group contact?
Would you mind if we did a little shopping for software while we wait?
Oenone
Sep 16 2008, 11:22 PM
I would be ready, but my timezone means now is the time for sleeping.
Assume Etoile turns up and stays quietly watching from the back somewhere. Ideally keeping herself as utterly cut off from the matrix as possible and taking as much gear as she can into the club. (I have no idea what security the place has, but she'd have ICly checked before arriving so as to not bring guns and mini-welders when they have obviously top rate door security)
bmcoomes
Sep 16 2008, 11:30 PM
Crizh: Yeah, I'm fine with having the whole comm thing already worked out. I think it would be Jake over DD.
Oenone: That's fine post when you can get some sleep, it's a precious thing.
Brent
Fuchs
Sep 16 2008, 11:34 PM
Yes. Jake's got the better contacts, and better programs.
Any results from DD's search?
Shalimar
Sep 17 2008, 12:08 AM
I'm ready
Shalimar
Sep 17 2008, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (bmcoomes @ Sep 16 2008, 05:56 PM)
Yeah, at best it would take two days to get Simrigs for the rest of the team.
Brent
Can't we just walk into a retailer and buy them?
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