OOC: Phoenix Rising, Out of Character thread for the runners Options

[crizh]

It does limit our options somewhat. We cannot do the hit until the data-steal is done.

We can't whack her without the Spirit's Summoner becoming aware of it, it's even more effective than a bio-monitor because there is no way to spoof it.

As to cyberware, she has a whole bunch of headware. Control Rig, Encephalon, Comm-link that sort of stuff.

That still doesn't preclude her being Awakened however. I'm sure that could all be squeezed into one point of Essence.

[Oenone]

A Control Rig and an Encephalon? Okay now I'm beginning to wonder if she's got some kind of drone support too and it would imply she's also pretty matrix smart. So that rules out potentially being able to kill her with Black IC.

It'd be very very expensive to fit all that cyberware into one point. The lower quality encephalon is .75 all by itself which means they'd have to be deltaware implants or maybe betaware with the Biocompatability quality.

A sniper kill looks increasingly like the best option (although I do still think demolitions is a viable plan). Which is why I suggested swapping Etoile and Tom, unless the data-steal team could stand to drop Tom entirely?

[Tarantula]

First, I never did roll for Ralphs disguise, so with an extra 4 dice (limited by his skill) from DD, heres the roll.

[2,2,1,6,1,4,1,1,5,6,1,2,2,3] = (3)
Disguise before seeing the target (14d6.hits(5)=3)

[Little Johnson]

What if we combine the two tasks?

Do the steal and work out way to get her to the lab and pop her there.

Or we do the steal. evac all but me and i shoot her when she comes to check out what ever we do to the lab. I then get as stealthy as i can and wait out the search for the shooter.

[bmcoomes]

Whare were you guys going to meet at?

Brent

[Shalimar]

Given that her magic is at 1, she could not have summoned a Force 6 spirit, and any magic she can throw around is pretty negligible, even over casting. But she does have to be awakened beyond just Astral Sight given that she has so much 'ware and is still magically active since a single implant would remove the Astral Sight quality.

[Shalimar]

Whare were you guys going to meet at?

Brent

We never declared it, but I think we could probably meet up in the back room of the resturant again, unless anyone has a big enough place for 11 people that wont raise alarms when those people start showing up. Charlie's place is big enough but she weouldn't invite people there since Bellevue is Luxury/High neighborhood with a Lonestar presence to match.

[bmcoomes]

Given that her magic is at 1, she could not have summoned a Force 6 spirit, and any magic she can throw around is pretty negligible, even over casting. But she does have to be awakened beyond just Astral Sight given that she has so much 'ware and is still magically active since a single implant would remove the Astral Sight quality.

From my understanding as long as she has at lest 1 essence point left she would still have 1 magic rating.

Brent

[Shalimar]

From my understanding as long as she has at lest 1 essence point left she would still have 1 magic rating.

Brent

Nope, its subject to the normal essence loss rules, ie for each point, or partial point of essence loss, the character looses 1 pt of magic, with Astral Sight you get 1pt of Magic and Cannot ever increase it above 1. I don't think it would be unbalanced with the Astral Sight quality if it worked the way you described since it basically bars the person from ever getting any modifications of any kind and also bars them from having magic of any kind too with the way it works now.

[bmcoomes]

Nope, its subject to the normal essence loss rules, ie for each point, or partial point of essence loss, the character looses 1 pt of magic, with Astral Sight you get 1pt of Magic and Cannot ever increase it above 1. I don't think it would be unbalanced with the Astral Sight quality if it worked the way you described since it basically bars the person from ever getting any modifications of any kind and also bars them from having magic of any kind too with the way it works now.

I see your right. Right, but I think a better way around it would be to allow it to be bought at any time instead of character creation. which makes more sense to me. Why cann't anyone learn that or develop that ability I don't think it would mess with things tomuch just and the flavor that more people can see the astral.

Brent

[Shalimar]

Do you mind if we just meet up at Nyen Lang again?

[bmcoomes]

Nope thats fine with me.

[crizh]

The Latent Talent quality would have let her do exactly that...

[bmcoomes]

Sorry I changed his name I like riptide better than neptune.

Brent

[Little Johnson]

Would save a lot of running arround if the hackers could set up a VR meeting room , secure it then call the johnson in. Its as secure as the resteraunt in my oppinion . We have his comcode.

[Shalimar]

Would save a lot of running arround if the hackers could set up a VR meeting room , secure it then call the johnson in. Its as secure as the resteraunt in my oppinion . We have his comcode.

As far as I know, we aren't contacting the Johnson at all until after the run. We did need to include the smuggler, but I'm totally sorry if I jumped the gun on this. It didn't even occur to me to do a VR meeting. It does give us a chance to eat a good last meal though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)

[Oenone]

Hmmm personally I'd say a VR meet would be better, mainly as in a resteraunt we can't really be sure of the security measures in place. For all we know the owner could be spying on all the guests with the spirits used for serving drinks etc.

The other problem is that it involves a trip to and from the place, as I doubt everyone will be able to walk in with full combat kit on us. Concealed pistols are one thing, but something like an AK-97 is a bit too bulky to hide. Plus we'd have to hire out the room again, which may or may not be expensive depending on the quality of the place.

Ah. Should have checked the IC thread first, looks like we're already set up at Nyen Lang. Oh well, at least this way it cuts down on our matrix security issues!

[DWC]

I'd argue that getting together in one place actually makes our matrix security issues worse. Encryption in Shadowrun is basically useless, and the only way to avoid being eavesdropped on is to not give someone any reason to listen in on what you're doing, and the very same eavesdropping is undetectable.

[Oenone]

How exactly does not using the matrix to communicate make our matrix security worse? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And even if we do use it at that short a range there is very little chance of someone using a signal scanner to pick up our communications unless they're in the room with us. (But I suspect Jake is likely to be packing some fibre-optic cable, in which case we could literally just hook everyone up and chat via the cable)

Edit - Unless you're meaning someone hacking a camera or maybe having spy drones in the room with us?

[Fuchs]

How the matrix actions turn out depends on the system's stats, if I need to roll more or spend edge I can do that.

[Oenone]

Ooo now that could be handy. If nothing else it means DD can stop her calling for help and it's rather likely she might have some valuble paydata on there. We might even be able to find out which corporation employs her, if we don't already know?

[crizh]

Several of us are posting in different time frames IC, can we try to be conscious of the time codes on other peoples posts, things are starting to get confused.

@DWC. If her internal comm-link is slaved to an external node it must still have it's wireless enabled.

In fact that makes an attack easier, given a few minutes to observe the node you can pin down the AccessID of the Master Node and start spoofing commands to the slave with automatic Admin privileges.

I was thinking that turning on her RAS override would make for some amusing fun...

[bmcoomes]

Yeah, I seen that. That's why I'm waiting to move forward some so people can catch up.

Brent

[Fuchs]

What about the hacking in the university?

[bmcoomes]

I'm working on that right now, few questions Fuchs. Your 14d6 roll is that your hacking + exploit test?, and your search roll was that your Electronic warfare + Scan test? From there I'll be able to move forward for you.