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post Oct 14 2008, 08:23 PM
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A tag-eraser just destroys them we need some blank ones. I think Truth has a few...
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post Oct 14 2008, 09:01 PM
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Doesn't everyone carry handfuls of blank RFID tags? Hell, the cupholders in his car are probably full of the damn things. That, and mesh tags.
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post Oct 14 2008, 09:09 PM
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I considered getting Mesh tags but couldn't be bothered in the end.

We all have tag-erasers though....
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post Oct 14 2008, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (crizh @ Oct 14 2008, 05:09 PM) *
I considered getting Mesh tags but couldn't be bothered in the end.

We all have tag-erasers though....


Of course. It's the comfortable solution to avoiding having the RFID tag in your underwear give you away when you're trying to sneak around.
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post Oct 14 2008, 10:51 PM
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We could sell a copy of the data via that Orbital Data-Haven, okay so we'd only get a fraction of the value, but that's still likely to make our payment for the job look like pocket change.

Considering the data in question Mr Johnson is probably going to have us killed for this run. Because honestly the sheer value of the things we've stolen and could have kept copies of is scary.

Incidentally doesn't a tag eraser just destroy the tags? Rather than just wipe the info from them. I remember something in the description about it burning them out.

@Brent - What sort of equipment does the club we're visiting allow inside? I assume a submachine gun is a little on the big side, but would pistols make it past the door staff? If not then Etoile is reduced to hand razors if Mr J turns hostile, which could be interesting against a drake.
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post Oct 14 2008, 11:01 PM
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Dante's Inferno doesn't let anything they can catch in the club.

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post Oct 14 2008, 11:03 PM
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Since it is getting late here: DD will follow Jake's lead with regards to what course of action to take.
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post Oct 14 2008, 11:13 PM
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All we have to do is say that we have the plans as a failsafe. If he kills us the plans go onto the Matrix and everyone will be able to get in on the act without R&D expenses (including the people we just stole the plans from) at that point its worthless to him since now he doesn't get the advantage he wanted, but is also worse off.

The best way to do it would be to put a picture of the Johnson (taken at the first meet) with the data and a description of the job on the matrix. If we die he is linked to the murder and the data steal so he is much worse off. If after the meet we aren't dead, we stop it from being sent out.
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post Oct 14 2008, 11:19 PM
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Unless of course that's what he wants.
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post Oct 14 2008, 11:24 PM
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I think you guys are over thinking all of it. Because really if he wanted you guys dead it would already have happened. It just how he likes to do business face to face. He old fashion that way. Plus if for some reason word or the data got out it would be a really short list on the people responsable, and there goes your shadowrun career.

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post Oct 14 2008, 11:34 PM
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I guess runners just aren't used to dealing with people who actually keep their words or who aren't trying to screw them. Charlie has no experience with that, plus she is a thrill seeker so she sees no problem of jumping right in.
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post Oct 15 2008, 03:12 AM
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I blame the treason for turning up the paranoia. Pissing off companies is normal. Pissing off a government is a special feather in a runner's cap.
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post Oct 15 2008, 06:40 PM
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I'm going to finish up the dante's infurno sence. I'll post the group/gernal karma earns here and I'll PM you with the bounce earns.
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post Oct 15 2008, 06:49 PM
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Assuming the agreed on 440,000 pay out minus the group expenses (5k for Riptide/ Ochir for finding him) it works out to:
39,454 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) each
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post Oct 15 2008, 06:51 PM
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Yup, looks about right to me.
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post Oct 15 2008, 07:09 PM
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We're rich!
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post Oct 15 2008, 07:34 PM
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Hey, I've just been reminded of the backstory of Hardwired.

We could negotiate to control the black-market in these products.

Fact is there will eventually be black-market copies of these products. We already have the specs, he has the equipment.

If he trusts us and our fixer maybe we could start manufacturing black market versions of the Tokamak with a Nano-forge that falls of a lorry in about six months or so.

He takes a cut and makes a profit of both ends of the market...
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post Oct 15 2008, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Fuchs @ Oct 15 2008, 08:09 PM) *
We're rich!


Nah, just back to merely broke....
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post Oct 15 2008, 08:05 PM
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We just have to get our hands on feedstock that isn't full of stealth tags, which is the hard part of any desktop manufacturing.
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post Oct 15 2008, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE (crizh @ Oct 15 2008, 02:35 PM) *
Nah, just back to merely broke....
Speak for yourself! I'm *this close* to being able to afford a permanent lifestyle. Of course, that's not nearly as exciting as a rating 4 Manipulation Sustaining Focus, but who's counting? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE (DWC @ Oct 15 2008, 03:05 PM) *
We just have to get our hands on feedstock that isn't full of stealth tags, which is the hard part of any desktop manufacturing.

Is feedstock harmed by a HERF gun?
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post Oct 15 2008, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE (DWC @ Oct 15 2008, 09:05 PM) *
We just have to get our hands on feedstock that isn't full of stealth tags, which is the hard part of any desktop manufacturing.


Probably the best way for Mr J to get his cut and make sure we aren't flooding the market with product...
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post Oct 16 2008, 11:37 AM
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Ok, provided we get the nuyen without troubles, DD will want to get some upgrades for her commlink - the three ICs that almost got her were scary enough - and programs. Money-wise, it shouldn't be a problem, though the availability means it'll take some time getting the stuff, and since her main commlink is an implant she'll need some surgery too.

So, how long of a downtime are we looking at? And is it a problem if DD spends such downtime in Jake's club in L.A. in the Swowcrash thread?


Planned upgrades:

Commlink:
Response 6 (Avail 16, 8000 Nuyen)
Customised Interface (Avail 6, 250 Nuyen)
Optimisation (Exploit) (Avail 6, 500 Nuyen)
Hardening 6 (Avail 4, 150 Nuyen)

Programs:
All programs from SR4, (without Black Hammer), and Corrupt and Purge from Unwired (p. 111)) on 6 (pirated): 9960 Nuyen (16 hacking programs at 300 each, 6 common use programs at 60 each, Firewall/System 300 each)
Empathy sensor software Rating 6 (pirated) (Arsenal p. 120): 300 Nuyen

Monthly patching costs: 1605 Nuyen (1500 per month, 210 every two months).

Tools:
Satlink (Avail 4, 500 Nuyen)

Which leaves roughly 20K for other stuff, like an upgraded agent (once I work those out).
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post Oct 16 2008, 12:30 PM
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Charlie's list will take a bit of doing due to the somewhat insane avilibility, but she isn't in any rush given that she has 20 days before she moves, and she can make rent a whole months rent at her new place in 3 days of putting up wards.

Glasses (Availibility 22 - 1,900) [Low Light, Flare Compensation, Image Link, Thermographic, Smart link, Vision Enhancement 3, Vision Magnification, Camera]

Earbuds (Availibilty 16 - 1,010) [Audio Enhancement 3, Selective Sound Filter 3, Spatial Recognized]

The only other thing she wants to pick up is entirely legal and she'd pick it up off the shelf:
Agent 3 (Legal - 5,050) with a linked virtual pet and a linked Pocket Mage Library Rating 3

She'd spend 8k, Save 7k, and throw the last 25,000 into Karma for Cash
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post Oct 16 2008, 12:39 PM
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Jake went in for a new Renraku nexus for the house, and ordered a simsense accelerator and sleep regulator to be installed. The rest went to a trip to a nice store to buy clothes, and ended up with him getting in a three-way with Mei and the service girl from the store. I love my players so much!
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post Oct 16 2008, 03:42 PM
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Here’s the beginning of Truth’s shopping list. The rest will hinge on whether DV and, by extension, Winston, will be sticking around.

Shopping List
Parts, 4 Response-6 Upgrades Avail: 16, 16000
Parts, 2 Improved Sensor Arrays Avail: 6, 2000
Parts, 2 Improved Range Finders Avail: 6, 2000
Parts, Optimize Commlink (Sniffer) Avail 6, 500
Parts, Optimize Commlink (Decrypt) Avail 6, 500
Reality Amplifier (Focus) Avail 14, 500

Novatech Airwaves Avail: -, 1250, bought at Best Buy with a fake SIN.

Software (pirated)
Adaptability-3 150
Covert Ops-4 200
Chaser-4 200
Trailblazer-4 200
Maneuver (Walker) -4 200
Attack-6 600
Blackhammer-6 600
Track-6 600
Decrypt-6 600
Sniffer-6 600
Browse-6 (Optimization-3) 90
Unrestricted Agent-6 1800
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