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 Dec 25 2003, 05:40 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 402 Joined: 23-April 03 From: London, UK Member No.: 4,491  |
I know the damage level for heart attacks is Deadly, but does anyone know the power?
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Dec 25 2003, 06:50 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It's automatic. If you really need power, it's 10^99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999D.
~J |
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Dec 25 2003, 06:51 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
You missed a few... ...Thousand. :rotfl: |
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Dec 25 2003, 06:55 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Ok, then, just tack a ! (Factorial) on after the Power. Problem solved :)
~J |
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Dec 25 2003, 06:57 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Mmm... A number no computer could ever display without sucking up every resource available to man...
Could you imagine how long it would take to do that by PC, let alone by hand like in the old days? |
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Dec 25 2003, 07:00 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It'd probably take days to just write out the largest number by hand.
When I get home I'm pulling out the other laptop, plugging this into Maple, and seeing how long it takes to get an answer. ~J |
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Dec 25 2003, 09:13 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
That still leaves it open to being reduced by platelet factories or a trauma dampener :P
It's just Deadly. Mark off 10 boxes. |
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Dec 25 2003, 11:05 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Keep in mind that people do recover from heart attacks on occasion. Hell, there are times when a heart attack doesn't even cause unconsciousness, let alone a 'Deadly Wound'.
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Dec 25 2003, 11:16 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Then we don't, in game terms, call it a heart attack. Maybe it was in medical terminology, but it didn't do what a heart attack does.
~J |
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Dec 25 2003, 11:30 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
What exactly does a heart attack do then? You seem to be under the impression that heart attacks are always fatal, yet that is definitely not the case. As I said, they are not even always the cause for (in game terms) Deadly Stun.
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Dec 25 2003, 11:33 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
A heart attack, in game terms, does D Physical. A heart attack, in real life, does a range of things from killing the person to making them steady themselves on a nearby wall for a few seconds while a feeling of weakness passes.
~J |
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Dec 25 2003, 11:35 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Remember, you aren't fully dead until you go over your Overflow. So the heart attack doing D isn't killing you... Yet.
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Dec 25 2003, 11:47 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Which can be staged down. |
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Dec 25 2003, 11:51 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Page reference?
~J |
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Dec 26 2003, 12:46 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Do you have a reference that says it can't be? Would it not be treated the same as any disease/toxin/malady, in that a person's Body has some bearing on resisting it? Is there any precedent in canon that would lead you to believe that a heart attack could not be resisted?
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Dec 26 2003, 01:26 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The fact that they don't give it a Power seems to suggest that. I don't have my books with me, but I'll check the wording again when I get back on Sunday unless someone else posts an excerpt.
~J |
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Dec 26 2003, 02:01 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
I've seen a perfectly healthy guy (Say Body 5) die from a heart attack, and a guy who is a total slob and should have died (Body 2) survive. Sure, they could've gotten more successes, but in equal fairness, it's based on your heart and its ability to function anymore.
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Dec 26 2003, 02:11 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
A "perfectly healthy guy" will be Body 3, maybe 4. An "exceptionally healthy guy" will be Body 5.
~J |
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Dec 26 2003, 02:15 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Meh, whatever, you know what I meant.
Either way, what should've happened is the slob should've died and the other guy should've survived, if going by Fortune's call (Which I wouldn't). |
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Dec 26 2003, 02:26 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
No, that's just the more likely outcome. What happens if we go by Kage's rule is everyone dies when they have a heart attack. As such, there is no such thing as a 'mild heart attack', as differentiated from something like a 'massive heart attack', as they are all considered 'instant death'. |
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Dec 26 2003, 02:27 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
D damage is not instant death. Overflow is instant death. There's a huge difference in taking D physical and taking D + your Body in boxes.
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Dec 26 2003, 02:30 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Then I differentiate between cardiac arrest (which there is no game effect for that I remember) and heart attacks. If it's a minor heart attack, it was cardiac arrest.
This is all just putting labels on stuff. ~J |
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Dec 26 2003, 02:33 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Without immediate and proper medical attention, what happens when someone takes a 'D' wound? How long does Joe Average (Body 3) have before he dies (from overflow) after sustaining that 'D' wound from a heart attack?
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Dec 26 2003, 02:40 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Exactly. How soon does somebody have to react to adminster CPR to the victim? Not too long. (My mom's a nurse. I asked her. She's more right than you are. :P)
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Dec 26 2003, 02:44 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I'm not sure I understand your response. You make it sound as if you agree that everyone would die within 3 minutes or so after having suffered a heart attack, if proper attention is not received. This is definitely not the case. Seeing as my father and grandfather both died from heart attacks, and I have had 2 myself (and am not quite dead yet!), I do have some passing familiarity with this subject. :) Oh, and my mother was a nurse too. :P |
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