 Effects of minor cosmetic biosculpting?, If you want my body and you think I'm sexy... |
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 Oct 5 2008, 02:19 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 27-March 08 Member No.: 15,819  |
I'm looking for the RAW for biosculpting, specifically, in-game mechanical effects of the minor cosmetic modification (Augmentation p61).
I've seen the optional ranges under Tweaking the Rules- Cosmetic Surgery (p23) and Bioscuplting Social Effects (p61), but other than trusting the wisdom of my fair and impartial GM, am I missing something definitive for my upcoming prettification surgery? |
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Oct 5 2008, 02:23 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
RAW, minor cosmetic bio sculpting is precisely that - cosmetic.
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Oct 5 2008, 02:59 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 27-March 08 Member No.: 15,819 |
QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 4 2008, 08:23 PM)  RAW, minor cosmetic bio sculpting is precisely that - cosmetic. Dang it. I was hoping cosmetic might not just be superficial! |
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Oct 5 2008, 04:35 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
The social effects of cosmetic bioware are, by RAW, determined by GM discretion, in much the same way that a vocal range enhancer might give you +1 to social skills and +2 to singing. Your GM could use the optional rule and have it increase Charisma, use the suggestions on the sidebar, or neither.
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Oct 5 2008, 07:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
You could try to get some genetherapy to mimic the Glamour Quality ... If the GM allows it for about 450k ...
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Oct 5 2008, 02:26 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Of course that could be a nice run- finding out if the latest sim starlet has had work and let's get the records.
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Oct 5 2008, 04:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 861 Joined: 27-November 07 Member No.: 14,397 |
QUOTE (TeaTime @ Oct 4 2008, 09:19 PM) I'm looking for the RAW for biosculpting, specifically, in-game mechanical effects of the minor cosmetic modification (Augmentation p61). I've seen the optional ranges under Tweaking the Rules- Cosmetic Surgery (p23) and Bioscuplting Social Effects (p61), but other than trusting the wisdom of my fair and impartial GM, am I missing something definitive for my upcoming prettification surgery? Yeah, no, no direct hard written rule bonuses for that. If your GM is nice you may get a bonus to social skills with people who think you are pretty. And if your GM has a brain toumer he may allow your Charisma to go up if you get a really good surgeon. Other then that, yeah, as others have said, cosmetics are just that, cosmetic. |
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Oct 5 2008, 04:17 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Cabral @ Oct 5 2008, 10:49 AM) You could try to get some genetherapy to mimic the Glamour Quality ... If the GM allows it for about 450k ... IMO Glamour isn't a non-magical metegenetic quality, so you can't get it as a Transgenetic alteration. |
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Oct 5 2008, 07:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 734 Joined: 30-August 05 Member No.: 7,646 |
QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 5 2008, 11:17 AM) IMO Glamour isn't a non-magical metegenetic quality, so you can't get it as a Transgenetic alteration. Part of the reason a GM might not allow it. It all depends on how far gene-engineered social aptitude can go ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif) |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:03 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
QUOTE (Runners Companion p.110) Non-magical metagenetic qualities that do not have a bioware or cyberware equivalent may be introduced into the game via Transgenic Alteration geneware (p. 92, Augmentation) at the gamemaster’s discretion. QUOTE (Runners Companion p.113) A character with Glamour is paranaturally gifted so that all sapient beings perceive her as moving with unearthly grace, her countenance as always radiant, and her voice as soul-wrenching and laden with emotion. Assuming your game is RAW, no, you can never obtain Glamour through genetics. To do so is to house-rule, & for something that does not make sense. |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 5-April 08 From: Canada Member No.: 15,852 |
QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 5 2008, 01:03 PM) Assuming your game is RAW, no, you can never obtain Glamour through genetics. To do so is to house-rule, & for something that does not make sense. It's a metagenetic quality. It's said under SURGE in play that genetic tampering can trigger it. So I don't see how it would be that asinine to allow it. |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:30 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
Key word being trigger, not cause.
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Oct 5 2008, 08:32 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,803 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Finland Member No.: 15,628 |
QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 5 2008, 11:19 PM) It's a metagenetic quality. It's said under SURGE in play that genetic tampering can trigger it. So I don't see how it would be that asinine to allow it. Thats only for Non-magical qualities and Glamour definedly doesn't qualify as one of those. |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 5-April 08 From: Canada Member No.: 15,852 |
QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 5 2008, 01:30 PM) Key word being trigger, not cause. Of course, but it does explain how it could be possible for a character that wanted the quality after they already made the character. |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:36 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
No, because by RAW, you must possess the Dormant Metagenics quality for such triggers to have any effect whatsoever - a quality only available during character generation.
Once again, RAW specifically forbids you from taking Glamour as a Transgenic Alteration. |
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Oct 5 2008, 08:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 5-April 08 From: Canada Member No.: 15,852 |
QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 5 2008, 01:36 PM) No, because by RAW, you must possess the Dormant Metagenics quality for such triggers to have any effect whatsoever - a quality only available during character generation. Once again, RAW specifically forbids you from taking Glamour as a Transgenic Alteration. Who said I was talking about RAW? I was suggesting a potentially viable in-fluff excuse to houserule the acquisition of the quality. |
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