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post Oct 5 2008, 02:19 AM
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I'm looking for the RAW for biosculpting, specifically, in-game mechanical effects of the minor cosmetic modification (Augmentation p61).

I've seen the optional ranges under Tweaking the Rules- Cosmetic Surgery (p23) and Bioscuplting Social Effects (p61), but other than trusting the wisdom of my fair and impartial GM, am I missing something definitive for my upcoming prettification surgery?
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post Oct 5 2008, 02:23 AM
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RAW, minor cosmetic bio sculpting is precisely that - cosmetic.
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post Oct 5 2008, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 4 2008, 08:23 PM) *
RAW, minor cosmetic bio sculpting is precisely that - cosmetic.


Dang it. I was hoping cosmetic might not just be superficial!
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post Oct 5 2008, 04:35 AM
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The social effects of cosmetic bioware are, by RAW, determined by GM discretion, in much the same way that a vocal range enhancer might give you +1 to social skills and +2 to singing. Your GM could use the optional rule and have it increase Charisma, use the suggestions on the sidebar, or neither.
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post Oct 5 2008, 07:49 AM
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You could try to get some genetherapy to mimic the Glamour Quality ... If the GM allows it for about 450k ...
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post Oct 5 2008, 02:26 PM
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Of course that could be a nice run- finding out if the latest sim starlet has had work and let's get the records.
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post Oct 5 2008, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (TeaTime @ Oct 4 2008, 09:19 PM) *
I'm looking for the RAW for biosculpting, specifically, in-game mechanical effects of the minor cosmetic modification (Augmentation p61).

I've seen the optional ranges under Tweaking the Rules- Cosmetic Surgery (p23) and Bioscuplting Social Effects (p61), but other than trusting the wisdom of my fair and impartial GM, am I missing something definitive for my upcoming prettification surgery?


Yeah, no, no direct hard written rule bonuses for that. If your GM is nice you may get a bonus to social skills with people who think you are pretty. And if your GM has a brain toumer he may allow your Charisma to go up if you get a really good surgeon.

Other then that, yeah, as others have said, cosmetics are just that, cosmetic.
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post Oct 5 2008, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (Cabral @ Oct 5 2008, 10:49 AM) *
You could try to get some genetherapy to mimic the Glamour Quality ... If the GM allows it for about 450k ...

IMO Glamour isn't a non-magical metegenetic quality, so you can't get it as a Transgenetic alteration.
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post Oct 5 2008, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE (Mäx @ Oct 5 2008, 11:17 AM) *
IMO Glamour isn't a non-magical metegenetic quality, so you can't get it as a Transgenetic alteration.

Part of the reason a GM might not allow it. It all depends on how far gene-engineered social aptitude can go ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cyber.gif)
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post Oct 5 2008, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (Runners Companion p.110)
Non-magical metagenetic qualities that do not have a bioware
or cyberware equivalent may be introduced into the game
via Transgenic Alteration geneware (p. 92, Augmentation) at
the gamemaster’s discretion.

QUOTE (Runners Companion p.113)
A character with Glamour is paranaturally gifted so that all
sapient beings perceive her as moving with unearthly grace, her
countenance as always radiant, and her voice as soul-wrenching
and laden with emotion.

Assuming your game is RAW, no, you can never obtain Glamour through genetics. To do so is to house-rule, & for something that does not make sense.
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post Oct 5 2008, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 5 2008, 01:03 PM) *
Assuming your game is RAW, no, you can never obtain Glamour through genetics. To do so is to house-rule, & for something that does not make sense.

It's a metagenetic quality. It's said under SURGE in play that genetic tampering can trigger it. So I don't see how it would be that asinine to allow it.
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post Oct 5 2008, 08:30 PM
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Key word being trigger, not cause.
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post Oct 5 2008, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (Janice @ Oct 5 2008, 11:19 PM) *
It's a metagenetic quality. It's said under SURGE in play that genetic tampering can trigger it. So I don't see how it would be that asinine to allow it.

Thats only for Non-magical qualities and Glamour definedly doesn't qualify as one of those.
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post Oct 5 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 5 2008, 01:30 PM) *
Key word being trigger, not cause.

Of course, but it does explain how it could be possible for a character that wanted the quality after they already made the character.
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post Oct 5 2008, 08:36 PM
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No, because by RAW, you must possess the Dormant Metagenics quality for such triggers to have any effect whatsoever - a quality only available during character generation.

Once again, RAW specifically forbids you from taking Glamour as a Transgenic Alteration.
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QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 5 2008, 01:36 PM) *
No, because by RAW, you must possess the Dormant Metagenics quality for such triggers to have any effect whatsoever - a quality only available during character generation.

Once again, RAW specifically forbids you from taking Glamour as a Transgenic Alteration.

Who said I was talking about RAW? I was suggesting a potentially viable in-fluff excuse to houserule the acquisition of the quality.
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