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QUOTE (Ryu @ Oct 8 2008, 08:23 PM)  Apart from "No, they don´t", knowledge skill glitches are hardly accidents or dangers of nature, yes? So? Knowledge Skill glitches are glitches. And the Guard power can be used to prevent a glitch from happening, yes? |
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Oct 8 2008, 12:57 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Oct 8 2008, 02:28 PM) So? Knowledge Skill glitches are glitches. And the Guard power can be used to prevent a glitch from happening, yes? I´ve always assumed that is true only within the previously established context. Would you provide the English wording for me? |
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Oct 8 2008, 03:10 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
As far as the "you need knowledge in it to do it" style gaming. You must really hate when they just buy knowsofts then. Cause, I'd definitely rather use a fake sin to pick up a knowsoft for things I'd frequently be needing to buy. Or even better, just take a warez group as a contact, and get warez knowsofts on the cheap when you need them.
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Oct 8 2008, 03:49 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
I have no problem with knowsofts, and I have no problems when my players push some tasks to contacts. But an experienced soldier without any kind of professional skill isn´t.
None of the required knowledge (in whatever form) is what sucks. |
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Oct 8 2008, 07:33 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Oct 8 2008, 11:28 PM) And the Guard power can be used to prevent a glitch from happening, yes? As far as I'm concerned, Guard only protects against actual 'accidents' and the like (that happen to the character ... not the player). It isn't proof against all Glitches. |
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Oct 8 2008, 07:38 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
All glitches cause actual accidents and the like to the character.
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Oct 8 2008, 07:59 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
The debate is IMO on "natural" accidents.
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Oct 8 2008, 08:07 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
To put this to an end, sr4, 288, "The Guard power gives the critter the ability to prevent normal environmental accidents and hazards (both natural and those induced by the Accident power), such as preventing someone from succumbing to heatstroke or saving someone from drowning. The Guard power can also be used to prevent a glitch from occurring. Guard may be used on a number of characters at once equal to the critter’s Magic attribute."
Emphasis mine. It blocks normal accidents and hazards including the accident power. It ALSO blocks glitches. It quite clearly does both. |
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Oct 8 2008, 08:13 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 8 2008, 10:07 PM) To put this to an end, sr4, 288, "The Guard power gives the critter the ability to prevent normal environmental accidents and hazards (both natural and those induced by the Accident power), such as preventing someone from succumbing to heatstroke or saving someone from drowning. The Guard power can also be used to prevent a glitch from occurring. Guard may be used on a number of characters at once equal to the critter’s Magic attribute." Emphasis mine. It blocks normal accidents and hazards including the accident power. It ALSO blocks glitches. It quite clearly does both. Thanks much. I will mention it at the table. |
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Oct 8 2008, 10:44 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
QUOTE (Tarantula @ Oct 9 2008, 07:07 AM) It blocks normal accidents and hazards including the accident power. It ALSO blocks glitches. It quite clearly does both. I didn't dispute that. I merely limit a Spirit's Powers to those things that I feel it can reasonably affect (ie. physical glitches), which doesn't include most Knowledge Skill tests. |
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Oct 9 2008, 03:35 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Why's that? Couldn't a guidance spirit guard you from something like a knowledge glitch?
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Oct 9 2008, 03:44 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Possibly, depending on the situation (but probably not in my games), but that is just one type of Spirit that possesses the Guard Power.
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