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Nov 14 2008, 05:55 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Ares HQ Member No.: 15,623 |
So I was reading through arsenal and was wondering, what it would take to without LOS shoot a target?
My guess so far is Tac nets, designators, a big gun and a little input from the dumpshock community. what do you folks think? How would you do it? |
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Nov 14 2008, 06:10 AM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
Intuition + Weapon Skill +/- Modifiers - 6 (Blind Fire).
Subject receives the Barrier Armor to their Damage Resistance Test. You can only do this if you know your targets location, but cannot actually see them. If you have no idea where they are to begin with, you cannot hit them. |
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Nov 14 2008, 06:35 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
I'm not sure what your question is. The rules on pg 162 of Arsenal seem fairly clear and comprehensive to me. For firing through walls, you can also use the radar sensor headware from Augmentation.
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Nov 14 2008, 12:57 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Ares HQ Member No.: 15,623 |
I guess my question is can it be done with a firearm. The rules in arsenal only cover info guided and seeking weapons.
So if a target is painted shouldn't it show the designated target in your imagelink? Also allowing you to fire at it through walls regardless of your weapon (but he weapon may not penetrate the wall). |
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Nov 14 2008, 04:28 PM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,542 Joined: 30-September 08 From: D/FW Megaplex Member No.: 16,387 |
Refer to the rules in the BBB about firing through structures.
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Nov 14 2008, 09:44 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 3-February 08 From: Ares HQ Member No.: 15,623 |
AP is what determines if the weapon can get through but if the target is designated do you still get the -6 for blind fire?
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Nov 14 2008, 10:28 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 573 Joined: 17-September 07 Member No.: 13,319 |
Also, watch the endgame fight scene in "Blade Runner", and read the passage in "Neuromancer" (or is it "Johnny Mnemonic"?) in which Molly describes an old ninja guy shooting rats through the floor.
If you want a more restrictive and slower houserule: roll *both* a INT-plus-skill test and an AGL-plus-skill test, and take the lower of the two. The first to see if you figured out where to shoot the wall, and the latter to get your point of aim where you want it (with the right timing, if target is moving). Suppressive fire through a wall might be the better tactic in some situations. Not sure where your target is? Fire bullets at all possible target locations! If you're getting data from, say, a building's security system, then AR should be able to give you an ARO aimpoint, assuming it can build a good 3D virtual model of the relative locations of shooter and target. |
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Nov 14 2008, 10:35 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,069 Joined: 19-July 07 From: Oakland CA Member No.: 12,309 |
You are asking for the Indirect Fire Rules found at 162 Arsenal
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Nov 15 2008, 02:09 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 28-July 08 Member No.: 16,169 |
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Nov 15 2008, 04:08 AM
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Ain Soph Aur ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
BBB = Big Black Book (or Big Blue Book, I forget), and obscure reference with a lot of history that basically means: SR4 core rulebook
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