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Poit-Narf
post Feb 17 2009, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (Matsci @ Feb 10 2009, 11:58 AM) *
Yeah.
They can use most technical skills, they just can't create with them. A Drone Loaded with an Aircraft Mechanic soft could repair, and even modify a plane, as long as it has blueprints to work from. However, It can't jurry-rig a fuel pump out of spare parts, and tend to toss up error messages whenever it runs into something different.

Then I shall revise my previous thoughts on this...

A drone/agent can use any technical autosoft, but cannot create new things with it. They could copy an existing thing, or follow plans to create something, but cannot do anything original.

So, with a Software autosoft, for example, new programs could not be created. But, software could be maintained using the autosoft, and perhaps even copies of cracked software (while conveniently leaving out the code to make the programs degrade) could be made with the autosoft. An Automotive Mechanic autosoft could be used to repair a vehicle or build something from some plans, but could not be used to create something original, and definitely not to MacGuyver anything up. A Forgery autosoft could be used to create fake SINs and nuyen, but not to forge someone's signature with just a description (a signature would require a sample to copy). An Artisan autosoft is useless, except when used along with Forgery to forge a work of art (since, I believe, you use the lesser of Artisan & Forgery for your roll).

Does that sound correct?
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post Feb 17 2009, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (Matsci @ Feb 17 2009, 09:04 AM) *
You get tagged feed stock.
You get an HERF Gun.
You no longer have to worry about Tags.

How much does said HERF gun cost?
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post Feb 17 2009, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (Poit-Narf @ Feb 17 2009, 09:06 AM) *
Then I shall revise my previous thoughts on this...

A drone/agent can use any technical autosoft, but cannot create new things with it. They could copy an existing thing, or follow plans to create something, but cannot do anything original.

--Derp Derp--

Does that sound correct?


That seems about right.

QUOTE (Poit-Narf @ Feb 17 2009, 10:11 AM) *
How much does said HERF gun cost?

2,500. It's an EMP greande that you point at people.
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post Feb 17 2009, 08:14 PM
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Only 2500 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ? Dude, I'm so getting 2 of those.
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post Feb 17 2009, 08:21 PM
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By the way, what's the current date?

(Current meaning "when we arrive in LA")
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post Feb 17 2009, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (Poit-Narf @ Feb 17 2009, 12:21 PM) *
By the way, what's the current date?

(Current meaning "when we arrive in LA")


God-dammit, now I have to do math.


Let's See.

3 weeks in HK, 4 in Neo-Toyko (It was very boring) , and 1 day to LA.

Date of Entering Employment with KondOrichid- 4/19/71

Current Date 6/26/71

Amount of Pay owned. -13,800 nuyen.gif
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post Feb 17 2009, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE (Matsci @ Feb 17 2009, 12:32 PM) *
Amount of Pay owned. -13,800 nuyen.gif

Huh? Is that the total amount of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) per person that we've gotten since we started our employment with KondOrchid?
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:22 PM
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that's how much per person, going up by (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) 500 per day
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (merashin @ Feb 17 2009, 02:22 PM) *
that's how much per person, going up by (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) 500 per day


I just checked my notes. It's 300 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) per day, plus living expenses, fuel, smuggling bribes, ID's, and other Misc expenses.

Witch Means that you guys have 20,400 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) owed to you when you hit LA. I apparently cannot do math anymore. I blame Rad.
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:42 PM
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Is making repairs to vehicles & drones covered under our expense account? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 17 2009, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE (Poit-Narf @ Feb 17 2009, 02:42 PM) *
Is making repairs to vehicles & drones covered under our expense account? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)


Yes. Mostly. If you can prove that it got damaged because you were doing a Job for the Cartel.

And not say, being attack by bounty hunters.
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That's fine. The repairs for the bounty hunter attack were already paid for by Dark Talon. I was (personally) more concerned about the repairs needed after the Kowloon City thing. I still hadn't fixed my Nimrod, since it'd have been damn expensive to. But, if KondOrchid is paying for that one, I'm fine with fixing it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nyahnyah.gif)
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post Feb 17 2009, 11:27 PM
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By the way, for the cargo ship, we need to get improved living conditions. If we're making what amounts to a mobile factory, we might as well get some good feng shui to improve our skill rolls.
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post Feb 18 2009, 02:07 AM
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i'm trying to find a reason for my character to contribute to that, as absolutely none of it directly benefits my character, if you replaced one of those workshops with one that makes cyber or bioware, then it would be easy
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post Feb 18 2009, 05:46 AM
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QUOTE (merashin @ Feb 17 2009, 06:07 PM) *
i'm trying to find a reason for my character to contribute to that, as absolutely none of it directly benefits my character, if you replaced one of those workshops with one that makes cyber or bioware, then it would be easy


Medical Facility...
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post Feb 18 2009, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE (merashin @ Feb 17 2009, 06:07 PM) *
i'm trying to find a reason for my character to contribute to that, as absolutely none of it directly benefits my character, if you replaced one of those workshops with one that makes cyber or bioware, then it would be easy

although i do now notice the value of being able to install the ware, but as i've shown through bolding i was talking about manufacturing which would be the cybertech skill.
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post Feb 18 2009, 08:59 AM
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Don't forget. These shops will also let us build/modify your armor and weapons, as well as our vehicles, your tachicoma thing, and our skytrain. And yes, the medical facility (mitch is trained in both first aid and medicine (though I suppose his specialty would be autopsy, since he picked up a "forensic" skill group). Along with all the other benefits. I dont mind having a cyberware building place, but can you even make things that are useful?

Also, I'll totally agree. We need a high lifestyle boat with some feng shui (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 18 2009, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (Dark Talon @ Feb 18 2009, 12:59 AM) *
Don't forget. These shops will also let us build/modify your armor and weapons, as well as our vehicles, your tachicoma thing, and our skytrain. And yes, the medical facility (mitch is trained in both first aid and medicine (though I suppose his specialty would be autopsy, since he picked up a "forensic" skill group). Along with all the other benefits. I dont mind having a cyberware building place, but can you even make things that are useful?

Also, I'll totally agree. We need a high lifestyle boat with some feng shui (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

He's got a point - a place to repair vehicles benefits everyone.
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post Feb 18 2009, 04:11 PM
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yeah, i must be really out of it, because i saw that he could repair vehicles and never even thought about mine being able to be repaired
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By the way, how much of the cost for the boat upgrades can be paid for with rating 6 fake nuyen? I have plenty...
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QUOTE (Poit-Narf @ Feb 18 2009, 08:47 AM) *
By the way, how much of the cost for the boat upgrades can be paid for with rating 6 fake nuyen? I have plenty...


As much as you want. I just get a chance to detect that it's fake every time you slot the credstick.
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post Feb 18 2009, 06:09 PM
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That's true. Between our various contacts (Kaz or other Triad people, for example), do we have a standard means of taking advantage of fake nuyen?
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post Feb 18 2009, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (Poit-Narf @ Feb 18 2009, 10:09 AM) *
That's true. Between our various contacts (Kaz or other Triad people, for example), do we have a standard means of taking advantage of fake nuyen?


Kaz probobly could launder it for you, but it would cost you something in real (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)
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post Feb 18 2009, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE (Matsci @ Feb 18 2009, 11:26 AM) *
Kaz probobly could launder it for you, but it would cost you something in real (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif)

Presumably, it would still be a net gain, though. Right?

How much would it cost per 10k fake (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ?
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post Feb 18 2009, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE (Poit-Narf @ Feb 18 2009, 11:57 AM) *
Presumably, it would still be a net gain, though. Right?

How much would it cost per 10k fake (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) ?


4k real (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) . Ahead of time.
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