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 Jan 4 2004, 07:20 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 8-January 03 Member No.: 3,874  |
Well, I posted this over at Enworld, and figured I'd also try this site:
I'm looking to hire a GM to run games for my employees and for myself and my partners here in Lawrence, Kansas. Even if you're not interested, if you know anyone and could pass this along, I'd appreciate it. At this point, I'm looking to interview prospective GMs, and we have no set deadline for when we would like to start. Some notes about us and the position: You'd be expected to run at least twice a month as long as schedules worked out. Scheduling would be semi-negotiable, but would need to fall on a Saturday or Sunday, and couldn't start before 1 PM. Optimally, we'd like to run every week. All books and materials are provided, though said material would remain the property of myself or of our LLC. In addition, all food and beverages would be provided while you game. In order of priority, the games you'd be running would be Shadowrun, Battletech, and D&D 3.5, depending on the group's mood. You don't need to discount yourself just because you aren't familiar with the settings. I would provide you with the background material (which would include required reading of a few novels for Shadowrun and Battletech). Perhaps other games in the future. We're still attempting to come up with a fair pay scale, though we will be paying no less than $13 an hour (not including preparation). Though if you run a fun 6-7 hour game every week, we'd pay you at least $100 a session. Depending on your longevity with the group, receiving benefits isn't out of the question, as we do offer health insurance and 401k plans to our other employees. The group you'd be running games for are between 26 and 32, and myself and my business partner are both semi-retired. We're socially well adjusted and have excellent hygiene, and we'd expect the same of our GM. This is a job, and even though it would only be a part-time job, we would expect you to treat it as such. If things don't work out, we won't waste much time in looking for someone else. You would be running the house rules that we use, when/if we use them, and our interpretation of rules when/if such arose. Though that we really just means me. Despite how all that might sound, we really are a nice, friendly group of guys. The point is though, you'd need to tailor the games to us, which means pleasing my partner, a role-player, and myself, who wants to kick some butt and blow things up. If interested, please send an e-mail to me at rian@easyfafsa.com and tell me a bit about yourself. |
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Jan 4 2004, 07:22 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
GM/Player Registry, buck-o.
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Jan 4 2004, 07:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-July 02 From: California Member No.: 2,955 |
Is this real? I want to move.
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Jan 4 2004, 07:38 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I'd take the job in a heartbeat if I could get over there. Feel like sponsoring a potential immigrant who has been GMing for over 25 years? ;) :)
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Jan 4 2004, 07:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 17-December 03 Member No.: 5,909 |
Hold up u mean to tell me that their is a Battle Tech RPG?!?!?!? Battle Tech is one of may favorate novels and i am quite well versed in the battle tech universe but ive never heard of an RPG neone know a good reputable site to buy the books from? (dont mention E-Bay gotten screwed their before).
It sounds to me with a group of 26 to 32 people you could just simply take turns GMing you could play everyday for a month and only have to GM once. This solves the problem of an outside GM tayloring him/herself to your needs and would certainly cost alot less. |
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Jan 4 2004, 07:49 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
The people are ages 26 to 32.
The RPG for Battletech is called Mechwarrior, but there's a good chance he wants to play Battletech even though it is not an RPG. If he and his partner can afford to hire a GM, they can probably afford to conjure a Fire Elemental to light their cigarettes. |
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Jan 4 2004, 08:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-November 02 Member No.: 3,660 |
:rotfl: |
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Jan 4 2004, 08:33 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
I hate to ask but uhh, why must this be a job? Most people run games for free. Are you that hard up for a GM?
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Jan 4 2004, 08:48 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 511 Joined: 30-May 03 From: Tulsa, OK Member No.: 4,652 |
Amazingly enough Mechwarrior was the first RPG I ever played...before I knew what an RPG even was. It was quite the fun game, even knowing absolutely nothing about it. |
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Jan 4 2004, 08:53 AM
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Senior GM Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,406 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Redmond, WA Member No.: 4,442 |
If I hire a GM, it'd be for one or more of the following reasons:
* I want more commitment or higher quality than most people * I want to own the creative works (runs) the GM produces * I want the GM to sign a non-disclosure on our activities * There is a business reason to play, and it makes sense to pay |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:02 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
Actually, it isn't that much - $100.00 for a good-sized group is less than what you'd pay for all going to the movies or downhill skiiing. Plus, you have a GM who isn't lazy, powertripping, or shoving his personal prefences or house rules down your throat. I think it shows that they want a good experience when they go through the trouble to get a big group together to spend 6 hours of their weekend. Bravo for them. Too bad I don't live anywhere near that area, or I'd be very interested in the job.
But I think any GM who is expected to keep a roleplayer and a powergamer both happy should be paid. :D |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:05 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
So, obviously not that well-versed then. ;) :D |
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Jan 4 2004, 09:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 2-December 03 Member No.: 5,871 |
Never played it friend has it. Says its great. maybe I'll check it out.
As for the whole job thing, man being fire for being a bad gm. hmmmmm Interesting....... Kinda takes the gms almighty powers away...... GM: alright street sam, your arrested, its a short trial, you go to jail for a long time. Player:...........Your fired, bing in the new entry level GM guys. GM: What about my dental plan? |
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Jan 4 2004, 10:35 AM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
The part about following "there" house rules and "pleasing" them sounds to much like, "I said I hit him" etc. I mean how much freedom would you have as a gm if one of your players was the boss. Piss him off in a game and you likely are out of a job. Or worse. Your only the GM until your view comes in conflict with what he thinks, and then it is his way cause he's the boss.
And you know, you really should pay him for 4-6 hours of prep time. It takes allot of work to come up with games that don't suck. |
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Jan 4 2004, 01:49 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,065 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Fayetteville, NC Member No.: 3,916 |
The manual in question -- insofar as I know, it's the latest release. Mechwarrior, 3rd edition -Siege Edited for technical difficulties |
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Jan 4 2004, 05:53 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It figures. A dream job, and it requires relocation. :dead:
Ah well. Good luck with your search. ~J |
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Jan 4 2004, 06:03 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
I wish, I wish, I wish!
Not fair. I want a job like that around my area. :( |
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Jan 5 2004, 04:20 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 8-January 03 Member No.: 3,874 |
Those are valid points, but for the most part, all of the house rules and rules interpretations are hammered out already anyway within the group, no matter who's running a game, whether they're getting paid or not, they'd be expected to go with the group consensus. We've been gaming together for 10 years, and we're a responsible group. Your comment about "I said I hit him,etc" is confusing. Do you really think that if I care enough to want to hire someone that I'm going to cheat? That defeats the purpose of gaming. And I can flat ass guarantee that none of my friends/employees would be allowed to get away with that sort've behavior. Yes, the point is that we're "pleased." If we're paying you and we're bored, you won't run for us anymore. If we're not paying you and we're bored, you won't run for us anymore. I don't game to be bored or frustrated. If you're the kind of GM that thinks that games are You VS Them, then you're obviously not the type of person we're looking for (though you here isn't you specifically, but the more general use of the word You). As far as paying for prep time, I'm a results oriented employer, and I believe in paying people on what they deliver. If you're a GM that takes 10 hours of prep time to come up with a good game, or a GM that takes 1 hour to come up with a good game, it doesn't really matter to me, all I care about is the result. If you don't feel that the pay is fair, we can talk about it. Finally, the reason I want to pay is because I want a quality game. You're absolutely correct Shadow, the freedom of the GM is limited to trying to come up with a game that I enjoy, that my business partner is okay with (he's pretty laid back), and that the rest of the players are at least moderately satisfied with ;). "Pissing me off in a game" would mean that you and I have some manner of personality conflict, as I don't anger easily. In 10 years of gaming, I think I've only gotten pissed once during a game, and we never gamed with that guy again. Most of this all comes back to, it doesn't matter whether they are getting paid or not, just about anything that would get you fired from being our GM would also get you ousted as a volunteer. Oh, and in response to someone else, yes, I was referring to Mechwarrior. In response to another, we do have some good GMs who will sometimes run games, but there simply isn't enough consistency from them. There will be a game 2 weeks in a row, then nothing for 3 months, etc. |
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Jan 5 2004, 04:25 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You didn't answer my question. :(
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Jan 5 2004, 04:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 606 Joined: 17-December 03 Member No.: 5,909 |
Actually I have read several novels particuarlly the ones by michael A stockpole and really enjoy the battletech universe. I only knew about the battletech products that stores like barns and noble sold in the scifi section. I am relatively new to RPG's untill not to long ago i was one of the creatons who thought it was extremely boring and only for guys who caint get dates. So i wasnt really looking. |
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Jan 5 2004, 12:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 29-November 02 Member No.: 3,660 |
Malichai I think for most of us , well me at least the concept of being paid to GM is just way to out there . I RPG for fun , my fun and others peoples fun . Everybody running a game has had an off day or two it happens . I have never played with any one that has pulled a %100 satisfying game for all %100 of the time .It just doesn't really happen .
I commend that you are willing to pay some one to entertain you , but I still don't understand why you don't have some one from your group run the games . |
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Jan 5 2004, 03:17 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
I hear that. Sometimes a GM has a wonderful idea, but the players absolutely despise it. Just one or two off days doesn't mean he's losing his touch. It could just mean he's trying new things and wants to see how those roll with the players.
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Jan 5 2004, 05:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 24-September 03 From: VA Member No.: 5,641 |
I leave for a couple months on business and I come back to a discussion over being paid to GM!? What is the world coming to? I mean the idea is great, and anybody that love to GM would want to jump on it. But like I've read in the thread, if the GM makes one tiny mistake or just doesn't play it the way you want he's out. I mean I GM for a group here, and I've been their only GM and we usually get along, but sometimes we have our differences...but they don't try to get rid of me. Where is that's the vibe I'm getting from this. Anyway just my two nuyen, don't mind me.
OH and the comment about having a Fire Elemental to light their smokes was fraggin hilarious! :grinbig: |
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Jan 5 2004, 05:28 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
On another note: The GM should always be the final law. You might have your house rules, but if they don't make sense to him, he should have free reign to say so and change it.
I'd love the job (if I lived in the area), but not with all these restrictions and worries that I could lose my job if you didn't have fun. |
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Jan 5 2004, 09:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 402 Joined: 23-April 03 From: London, UK Member No.: 4,491 |
If I had a group to do with GM's for Hire, I'd have them well versed in at least two systems.
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