 Arsenal upgrades to weapon foci?, Seems too good to be true... |
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 Jan 28 2009, 03:25 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 30-December 08 Member No.: 16,720  |
My ex-corporate mage has a sword weapon focus and I thought that a gecko grip would be useful in keeping it around. Then I thought "Why not a personalized grip too, +1 more melee for just 100 instead of 10K!"
It seems almost too good to be true though, boosting an already-potent device. Would technological tricks like that work on an item made to be enchanted? A lanyard, sure, that's just some fabric tied to the end, but a gecko or security grip? And the personalized grip treads on the power of the focus... though it wouldn't work in astral space. Comments? |
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Jan 28 2009, 03:26 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Well, you should really do it before you enchant the sword.
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Jan 28 2009, 03:51 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
While AH is right according to the fluff, technically speaking you do not need to do so. You can add the modification at any time.
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Jan 28 2009, 05:41 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 326 Joined: 10-January 09 From: Des Moines, WA Member No.: 16,758 |
I say go for it. Melee weapons are kind of weak anyway, even in the astral, where a stunbolt or manabolt works just as well.
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Jan 28 2009, 08:15 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Octopiii @ Jan 27 2009, 09:41 PM)  I say go for it. Melee weapons are kind of weak anyway, even in the astral, where a stunbolt or manabolt works just as well. Question: Do you use reach in astral? always wanted to check and this reminded me. I have been using reach on dual natured folk and weapon focuses. |
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Jan 28 2009, 08:26 AM
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Deus Absconditus Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
I believe reach still applies in astral space, yes. A troll with a pole arm weapon focus can still keep you at bay effectively, because it's still long, and will still hurt.
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Jan 28 2009, 01:45 PM
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The ShadowComedian Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,538 Joined: 3-October 07 From: Hamburg, AGS Member No.: 13,525 |
could one make a weapon-focus of this bendy metal stuff?
so you could wear your sword like a belt untill it's time to whip it out and shove it into a body? |
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Jan 28 2009, 01:47 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Yes. However, you're definitely not getting the bonus for home-made telesma.
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Jan 28 2009, 02:25 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,245 Joined: 27-April 07 From: Running the streets of Southeast Virginia Member No.: 11,548 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 28 2009, 08:47 AM) Yes. However, you're definitely not getting the bonus for home-made telesma. Well, that assumes you didn't make it yourself. Besides, if you have the resources to make that sort of weapon, you can use a lot of other special stuff to make sure you succeed. |
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Jan 28 2009, 04:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 422 Joined: 14-August 08 Member No.: 16,237 |
QUOTE (Stahlseele @ Jan 28 2009, 02:45 PM) could one make a weapon-focus of this bendy metal stuff? so you could wear your sword like a belt untill it's time to whip it out and shove it into a body? snake blade weapon focus. anyway i say you could aslong as the weapon doesnt need to be completely rebuilt. |
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Jan 28 2009, 11:15 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
QUOTE (darthmord @ Jan 28 2009, 02:25 PM) Well, that assumes you didn't make it yourself. Besides, if you have the resources to make that sort of weapon, you can use a lot of other special stuff to make sure you succeed. Popular Science just had an article describing how to refine titanium in your garage, with a graphite mold and a blowtorch. Hmm... I remember having a player ask how long it would take to build a car from scratch to use as a focus... -karma |
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Jan 29 2009, 01:25 AM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Steal a nanoforge.
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Jan 29 2009, 01:45 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
A nanoforge is not a handtool.
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Jan 29 2009, 01:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
What if you attach a handle to it?
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Jan 29 2009, 01:59 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Even then.
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Jan 29 2009, 02:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 30-August 08 From: san luis obispo, CA Member No.: 16,295 |
what if your a troll and attach a handle to it?
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Jan 29 2009, 02:31 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
If the troll picked up the nanoforge and banged it against an anvil to shape a piece of wood or metal, then it might be considered a handtool - but only for the piece of wood or metal being made, not anything put out by the nanoforge.
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Jan 29 2009, 02:45 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 28 2009, 09:31 PM) If the troll picked up the nanoforge and banged it against an anvil to shape a piece of wood or metal, then it might be considered a handtool - but only for the piece of wood or metal being made, not anything put out by the nanoforge. What if you enchant the nanoforge as a vessel, put an Inhabitation Ally in it (hybrid merge), and give the Ally the Enchanting skill? And for that matter, is there any sort of bonus related to using your own bodily secretions as telesma that might apply in this situation, or ever? |
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Jan 29 2009, 02:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 422 Joined: 14-August 08 Member No.: 16,237 |
QUOTE (hyzmarca @ Jan 29 2009, 02:45 AM) What if you enchant the nanoforge as a vessel, put an Inhabitation Ally in it (hybrid merge), and give the Ally the Enchanting skill? And for that matter, is there any sort of bonus related to using your own bodily secretions as telesma that might apply in this situation, or ever? i had my heart surgically removed and replaced and used it to enchant a powerfocus. i think it would just count as a virgin telesma. |
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Jan 29 2009, 02:50 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Just because you never used it doesn't make it a virgin.
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Jan 29 2009, 02:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 422 Joined: 14-August 08 Member No.: 16,237 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 29 2009, 02:50 AM) Just because you never used it doesn't make it a virgin. ouch |
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Jan 29 2009, 02:57 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 28 2009, 05:45 PM) A nanoforge is not a handtool. Please understand that this entire post is about sillyness. My character PAID essence for his cyberlimb. Its part of him now. Its a replacement for his hand and thus a 'hand tool' Just like mages who pay for eyes man, I can use mine in my magic too. |
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Jan 29 2009, 12:14 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
..so if you install a nanoforge into a cyberlimb...
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Jan 29 2009, 12:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 825 Joined: 21-October 08 Member No.: 16,538 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ Jan 29 2009, 03:50 AM) Just because you never used it doesn't make it a virgin. What if I approve every single molecule re-arrangement, so I had a hand in all of it? While holding it by the handle. |
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Jan 31 2009, 06:31 AM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
You didn't grab each molecule yourself and move it, you told your nanoforge to do it.
If you have to plug it in, it's not a hand tool. Hand tools need muscle power to operate. Like hammers. Or saws. A hand-powered manual drill might be pushing it. Why do I feel silly having to explain this? -karma |
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