OoC Evolution, Out of Character - Epoch, Survival, Revolution Campaigns Options

[Mister Juan]

So, 80 000 divided equally makes it 16 000 each.
What we could do is each take a cut of 12 000, and put the 20 000 grands left in a "team pool".
I know 12g a piece isn't a whole lot of money, when you think about it. But when you look at the fact that a low lifestyle is 1 000 a month, thats a full year worth of living expenses in 10 days work.

Anyways, as for starting a "team pool". Each run, we could all chip in equal part, and buy common gear with it. For exemple, on this run, we could use it to outfit ourselves with the proper camo, comms and camping gear we'd need. In the future, we could use it to cover multiple safehouses... and maybe even vehicles.

[blindfox]

sounds like a great fraggin idea, but how's about we make that cut 14 large apiece (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Kliko]

80k minus mission specific costs will net us probaply around the 50k for the team (presuming (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) 3k per exfil) . The remainder is split on an equal basis per head. Of course these costs aren't wasted. You'll end up with a full camouflage suit for in the jungle, a machete and some miscelleneaous (jungle) survival equipment.

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Perhaps I wasn't to clear about it, but Kliko already has a (limited)pool of team resources which we can use for working capital purposes, equipment acquisition, specialist (matrix, magic) outsourcing

As far as Kliko is concerned payment is not to bad. Think of it, ten days of working covering > 1 month of lifestyles, costs etc. Don't forget chummers, these Johnson's think us scum. Sure we all want that next hot piece of tech (Kliko not being an exception) but we got a rep to build before we can hit the major league.

[Kliko]

Ok, edited my IC-post somewhat. I was under time-pressure this morning to wrap things up.

[blindfox]

did Smith give us a dossier or any other data to help in the planning phase or is all the legwork on our own? that will effect my IC questions.

[Mister Juan]

Nope. He'll only hand it when we're on the plane.

[Kliko]

@Blindfox: The general idea is first to brainstorm on possible plans for this run. We'll just have to make presumtions on the target and make sure we have enough alternatives readily available (plan for anything! be ready for nothing).

[SneakyJoeKDB]

Can we research science/ research facilities in the area? It would be good to have some sort of idea what the job entails for planning purposes? Maybe look for reports news articles on any type of research/ new technologies coming from the area?


On another note... Kliko and Bubba were working with a fixer to get Bubba a security helmet with drop down visor among other supplies... Did we assume that happened?

[Kliko]

Yup, that happened. Cost Bubba (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) 625 for a nice troll modded security helmet, tailored to his specific horn/skull shape. He had to take some measurements for his skull/horns some 6 weeks before. The helmet was delivered in a casing with soft foam interior, complete with stickers for various camouflage lay-outs in different operating environments some four weeks later.

Once you got one, you never want to run without... Kliko had to remind Bubba to take it off when he left for Frank's donuts after the package had been delivered.

Can we research science/ research facilities in the area? It would be good to have some sort of idea what the job entails for planning purposes? Maybe look for reports news articles on any type of research/ new technologies coming from the area?

Yes we can. In fact if you google/wiki Kourou that already gives us some pointers...

[SneakyJoeKDB]

Once you got one, you never want to run without... Kliko had to remind Bubba to take it off when he left for Frank's donuts after the package had been delivered.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) that sounds like Bubba. I dont have a book so what are the stats? 2/1 and stacks on armor? Another question... Half fit form armor does that stack under a lined coat? And would we want a heavy machine gun on this mission at least for over watch?


As far as the research goes... I was thinking more in-game research, but maybe it is all based on real world?

[SneakyJoeKDB]

In game we should see if any launches are scheduled during the time we hold the scientist captive:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Spatial_Guyanais

[Kliko]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) that sounds like Bubba. I dont have a book so what are the stats? 2/1 and stacks on armor? Another question... Half fit form armor does that stack under a lined coat? And would we want a heavy machine gun on this mission at least for over watch?

The helmet is indeed +1/2. A lined coat does stack with the half-form fit, but it only gains you a +1 ballistic armor (layering armor sr3.p285). Secondly when your quikness is < sum of your armor pieces rating it invokes +difference tn penalty on all quickness related tests.... fyi that includes shooting... The helmet is fortunately the obvious exception to this rule.


It's the reason I usually stick to the camouflage suits or armor vests/jackets, cross my fingers and hope my characters don't get hit.

A HMG might be usefull for example when we hire a yacht to cover for the week. That should give pirates a run for their money, Har! But honestly if you want to go the heavy weapons-role Bubba is much better of with a LMG (cost wise). Slap on a foregrip and Rock 'n roll! HMG's tend to be very difficult to obtain on the streets (availability is through the roof).

[Bastard]

Kliko asked me if you could use any info you "google-fu" can get you. The answer is yes. Google, wiki, and all the likes, will give you basic knowledge. Just remember that there probably are a few changes in the 50 years between now in RL and now in game time.

If you have specific questions, post in the OoC and I will try to answer in my next IC. Depending on rolls first. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

Everyone make a computer-search roll, and a couple etiquette rolls (for a few contacts) and I will IC post your results tonight or tomorrow... and hopefully that will get you guys sped up.



(IMG:style_emoticons/default/twirl.gif) Sorry for the long delay guys. Had an eventful few nights last week at work, and I couldnt get onto DS yesterday. Not to mention the football pool I run kept me busy, along with the two others I am in and my fantasy football!

[Bastard]

Oh... since this is either most of your first or second time with me as a gm. I try not to have the Johnsons screw you over all the time. I always hated Shadowrun for that. It isn't really a plot twist, when the exact same thing happens every time.

The Johnson has no more reason to screw you over, as you do him. You would have your reputation, and your fixer's, dragged through the mud. The Johnson would lose a possible valuable asset in the future, plus, they would probably be too scared of screwing over career criminals with little or no regard for life, big guns, magic and the ability to find people.

[Kliko]

1. What corp controls the CSG?
2. Launch schedule for the Kourou-site?

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Intelligence check: [1, 8, 11, 1]

3. What type of satelite is this?

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Intelligence check: [10, 4, 1, 2]

4. What (merc)organization has the security contract for the Kourou-site?

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In order of appearance, depending on previous succes... I need to contact my dealer anyway for this run.
Mercenary Hot spots((Knowledge): [13, 5, 3]
Mercenary Groups(Knowledge): [4, 5, 3, 5]
Mercenary etiquette: [3, 4, 3]

5. Is said merc organization providing jungle warfare training programs to third parties?

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Mercenary Groups(Knowledge): [2, 8, 2, 2]

6. Any other relevant security info on the Kourou-site?

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Intelligence check: [4, 2, 2, 1]
Mercenary Groups(Knowledge): [7, 8, 8, 5] / standard procedure?
Mercenary etiquette:[5, 1, 4]

7. Tourism opportunities?

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Intelligence check: [1, 3, 4, 4]

That's about it for now.

[Bastard]

Thanks Kliko - I will hit all those in an IC.

Can everyone else post their searches and questions like Kliko... it makes it easy for me to reference, cause it will be a long IC.

[Mister Juan]

Here is my long list of rolls (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

General Information Gathering on French Guiana

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Computer Roll: 08 04 02

IDing Smith (pictures taken with cybereyes, voice recorder with cyberears)

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Etiquette (Afrim): 21 05 05 04 02 01
Etiquette (Alec): 11 04 04 04 03 02
Etiquette (Miron): 11 04 03 02 01 01

Safehouses in French Guiana

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Etiquette (Miron): 10 08 05 05 04 04
Etiquette (Morris) 09 05 05 04 03 02

Additional Contacts/References in French Guiana

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Etiquette (Miron): 05 04 03 02 02 01
Etiquette (Morris): 05 03 03 03 02 01
Etiquette (Millard): 05 03 02 02 02 01

Intelligence Ops in French Guiana, and surroundings

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Etiquette (Morris): 05 05 04 03 02 02
Etiquette (Millard): 11 04 03 02 01 01

French Guiana Intelligence Capabilities

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Etiquette (Morris): 05 05 04 04 03 01
Etiquette (Millard): 08 08 05 04 02 02
Intelligence Agencies: 05 04 03 02

Getting all the shots for the trip

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Etiquette (Roland): 10 08 05 05 04 03

[SneakyJoeKDB]

General Knowledge updated 50 years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

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Intelligence 4, 4, 3, 1
Etiquette 2, 1, 1

Who is Bala?

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Intelligence 5, 4, 3, 2
Etiquette 9, 5, 2

General science or research coming from area?

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Intelligence 4, 4, 1, 1
Etiquette 5, 5, 4

Break-through cutting-edge research/technology coming from area?

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Intelligence 10, 9, 5, 1
Etiquette 13, 4, 3

Science Facilities/ Research Centers in Area?

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Intelligence 10, 9, 1
Etiquette 13, 4, 3

Donut Shops?

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Donut shops 11,3,1

Exotic Donuts?

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Donuts 17,4,2

[blindfox]

i'm sorry to do this but i had a hellatious day yesterday and its effects are carrying over into today and probably from here on. i've had to spend most of my time considering this subject to the exclusion of all else. i'll try and get an IC up before tomorrow evening and i cant really provide my rolls (sorry aaron (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarrassed.gif) ) but these are a few of my questions and i'll try to omit those that have already been posed:

-EDIT-
rolls taken care of, packing list available upon your request, bastard. i'll wait to post IC til you post yer novella-


how do we plan to take care of the package for the duration and where will we release him?

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intelligence: 14, 3, 4, 5
wilderness survival: 8, 4

also ID'ing smith, since sugar had eyes on. (camera eyes and recorder ears like Ludi)

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etiquette, street to LiveWire: 2, 3, 2, 1

regional political climate from which to extrapolate ROE and determine OpFor MLCOA as well as AOA (most likely course of action, opposition force, avenues of approach, rules of engagement; i'll end up using these and other acronyms later)

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intelligence: 2, 5, 4, 3
computer search ops: 4, 2, 3, 3

current cultural guide book

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intelligence: 9, 4, 5, 2
computer search ops: 3, 2, 1, 4

location of any nearby embassies or other friendlies

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intelligence: 7, 1, 5, 2
computer search ops: 11, 8, 3, 1

local soccer team with stats and schedule

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soccer knowledge: 3, 4, 5, 5, 9
computer search ops: 3, 4, 5, 4

i suppose that i can account for my poor rolls by pointing out that Sugar is trained in the desert and has little experience in jungle/ rain forest

[Bastard]

Another example of "Friendly" Antioch

Contra Costa Times

I think my favorite part is when one student references that their having lived in Oakland making them an expert on the sound of gun shots. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)

Antioch high school re-opens after student shot
By Robert Salonga and Hilary Costa
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 09/16/2009 09:19:17 AM PDT
Updated: 09/16/2009 11:43:40 AM PDT

ANTIOCH — Order is gradually being restored at Deer Valley High School as police investigate a drive-by shooting this morning that wounded a student outside campus, authorities said.

Students were allowed to call their parents for pickups beginning at 10:40 a.m., and have been given the option of leaving or continuing the school day, said Deer Valley principal Scott Bergerhouse.

Parents signed up for pickups in the west cafeteria. Sports practice was expected to be held after school as usual. A Senior Day trip to Waterworld USA in Concord will go on as planned for students who still want to go.

"We'll have a regular day here at Deer Valley High School as best we can," Bergerhouse said.

That didn't seem likely as students milled around the school's courtyard, dozens of others streaming off campus. Few headed back to class.

The shooting was reported about 8:30 a.m. on a sidewalk at the eastern entrance of the campus, off Sagebrush Drive near Lone Tree Way. Officers arrived to find a teenage boy with multiple gunshot wounds, police said. The victim was airlifted to John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek.

Bergerhouse said the boy was wounded in the arm and chest, and that he was conscious and responsive when police arrived. He also said the boy was able to call his parents, and was conscious as he was flown to the hospital.

Police said the shooting was preceded by an argument between the group of males the victim was with and another group in a car, who fled. One student reported hearing three to four shots; another, Christian Miller, 15, said she also heard gunfire.

"I used to live in Oakland, so I know what it sounded like," Miller said.

A student described the shooter's vehicle as a black sedan with tinted windows playing loud music, occupied by a driver and passenger. It was last seen eastbound on Indian Hill Road. The school was put on lockdown shortly after the shooting.

Don Gill, interim superintendent of the Antioch Unified School District, said the victim was a student who was attacked by a non-student. An Antioch police car left the scene with its lights on carrying a teenage boy in the back seat, but police did not confirm whether an arrest was made.

Gill said the entire school district was locked down for about an hour as a precaution.

"We don't know if it was gang-related or if any retaliation is planned," Gill said.

In response to the lockdown, neighboring school districts are on alert. Pittsburg's school district plans to increase police presence at its two junior high schools, Pittsburg High School and Marina Vista Elementary because of its downtown location.

[SneakyJoeKDB]

That is because all the Oakland folk moved to Antioch and now Antioch is a thug town. It is really sad seeing what happened to our home stomping grounds. Every time I go back I feel very unsafe and on guard. If California could get its act together and clean up its government policies, crime, education system, and housing issues, we would consider moving back.

We miss our friends and family, but quite frankly, my children are so much better off in Utah.

[blindfox]

edited my previous post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bastard]

DAMN... that is a lot of questions. I have been working on this for a good part of the day. Still got some to answer, so unfortunately my IC post will not be up tonight. Its almost 2130 here and I have to be up and on the road by 0315 for work.

I should be able to finish searching and giving you detailed answers tomorrow, but I probably won't have the novella of a post up until Friday or Saturday night.

Sorry guys.

Keep planning, look over each others questions, maybe they will spark more questions... or you can answer each others.

Here are some questions I can answer OoC though:

How do we plan to take care of the package for the duration and where do we release him?

This is for you and your team to decide. Though he needs to be taken within the seven days from the meet, and held until the end of the 10th day.

regional political climate from which to extrapolate ROE and determine OpFor MLCOA as well as AOA (most likely course of action, opposition force, avenues of approach, rules of engagement; i'll end up using these and other acronyms later)

I will hit the regional politcal climate, the OpFor, as well as their RoE, in the IC. However, their AoA is undetermined, since you are not quite sure which facility you are snagging the package from.

General Knowledge updated 50 years (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/read.gif) SR3 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)
I will add updated information from my sourcebook in the IC



I liked the IC questions: soccer, donut shops, tourism. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) \

Any additional rolls I need I will roll to speed us up. Sorry again for the dragon ass.


By the way - has everyone updated their characters? Contacts, lifestyles, enemies?

[Kliko]

I don't think they're really into troll trash metal down there, are they? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

[SneakyJoeKDB]

By the way - has everyone updated their characters? Contacts, lifestyles, enemies?

I am partially updated... I do not have a book to figure out 3 points of edges. I did update some skills and attributes.

After Shasta I would like to give Bubba a wilderness survival skill for flavor... is it an active skill or knowedge skill? I am assuming its based on Intelligence?