The ‘Build a Superhero’ Challenge, Idea from ‘I am Ironman’ thread Options

[hobgoblin]

Don't forget though that he did take Venom* in that miniseries. Yes boys and girls Batman took drugs to help him become even more effective at crime fighting. If there had been no evil-purposefully-added-side-effects he'd probably be popping pills to this day. In Batman Beyond he actually had two suits, one was a large IronMan-esque suit that he discarded in favor of the normal BB suit because it put too much strain on his heart (ironically Tony Stark's suit saved his heart...hehe IRONically ah man).

Here's a problem I've always had; Batman is a fanatic, he's loony tunes about fighting crime. He'd take ANY advantage he could get, like the Venom he took. If there was someway he could augment himself without interfering with Bruce Wayne's "face" qualities, or decreasing his intellect, you better believe he's there. He's a guy who's forced himself through the most grueling training the world had to offer just to be the best in a time where there was no overt human enhancement such as 'ware.

*Venom eventually became the chemical the Batman villain Bane regularly uses to be a pumped out roid freak with super strength.

im guessing your refering to kingdom come with "that miniseries".

been a while since i read it, so i dont recall if venom was used or not.

also, bane basically introduced venom to the world, long before the supposed events of kingdom come. so the word eventually is somewhat misplaced...

[Stahlseele]

Well, there WAS the oneshot TRUE FRIENDS, where Wayne really becomes a psychotic steroid addicted junkie . .

[hobgoblin]

heh, depending on the artist working on batman at the time, he has gone from weekend morning entertainment to distilled nightmare fuel. and thats the hero, now consider what some of the villains of the batman world have been from time to time...

[Stahlseele]

Mr.Freeze?
Cool as ice ^^
And i just realized that Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight parts 16-20 have been released in Germany as a Single Comic Book Called "Wahre Freunde"
so the incident i was talking about was that one

Venom (16-20)
When Batman fails to save the life of a young girl held for ransom, he decides to try a new experimental drug designed by her father called Venom.

[Rayzorblades]

Yeah sorry I wasn't more clear, Venom was the name of the series in which Bruce takes the experimental muscle boosting drug as Stahlseele said. It wasn't really that well written and the art was very Byrne-esque, but it was alright.

[Stahlseele]

hadn't know that the drug is named venom . . in the german version, it's never really given a name . .
also did not know that this stuff was supposed to be the same that bane is using O.o
so with that one batman movie, the drug has now . . 3 different points of origin o.O

[hobgoblin]

so, bane, SR version?

a troll on kamikaze? or maybe some drug cocktail from hell?

oh wait, tempo and a blood spirit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Stahlseele]

yeah, sucks that magic can do all those best <.< . .
well, one could try with the adrenaline pump and other such things.

[hobgoblin]

i guess the general problem with magic is that there is no real upper limit.

the more mana you pump in, the more you get out. talk about linear increase in performance...

[Stahlseele]

yeah, that too . .
but we've allready derailed this thread enough.
let's not start the old magic is overpowered/unbalanced argument in here again . .
even if it is ^^

[hobgoblin]

well its somewhat related as there was no limits on the build points.

as for unbalanced, meh. magic only really gets into gear in high end games, as it can continue to grow when others run out of toys to buy or implant.

now, if there was some kind of general rule of magic addiction...

kinda like focus addiction, only that it triggers when the mage starts using magic for the silliest of things...

[Stahlseele]

hrm, cyclops is still hard to do . .
i can't find any mention of this right now, so does anyone know if there are cyber implant versions of the laser weapons?
or the sonic weapon?
that would make many such things MUCH easier <.< . .

[hobgoblin]

the funny thing about cyclops is that the eye beam is kinetic, not burning...

also, the energy output is basically insane...

[Stahlseele]

well . . yes and no . . it's as burning and cutting and blinding or concussiv as he wants it to be really O.o
but for the diverse optics light laser on the cockpit, for the looks of it, i would still go with a laser-weapon ^^

and if there's an implant version of the sonic boom rifle, then that would make things like syren or banshee easy enough

[hobgoblin]

well . . yes and no . . it's as burning and cutting and blinding or concussiv as he wants it to be really O.o

more like what the writer needs it to be, or the artists interpret it as...

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Scott_Summers_(Earth-616)

[Stahlseele]

so?
it's powered by plot, just like everything else in that universe.
i guess it would be easy enough to apply the cyber-gun modificators to laser and sonic weapons, and make the external clip-port a must have to attach batteries via cable . .

[Degausser]

Rorschach (Movie Adaptation)

Human Physical Adept (Super, rediculusly high Karma, I ain't even gonna count it.)

Strength 3(6)
Body 4
Reaction 4(6)
Agility 6 (5 originally, increased 1 by karma)
Charisma:2
Intuition: 4
Logic: 4
Willpower: 5 (3 originally, Increased 2 by karma)

Edge 4
Magic 9 (5 originally, increased 1 by karma)
Initiated 3

Initiative 8(10)
Passes 1(3)

P Damage Track 10
Willpower Track 10

Skills:
Athletics group: 4 (3 Originally, increased 1 by Karma)
Stealth group: 4(Infiltration 6)
Unarmed Combat: 6(8 ) (4 originally, increased 2 by Karma)
Locksmith (Picking): 4+2
Intimidate (Torture): 7+2 (6 Originally, increased 1 by Karma)
Exotic Weapon: Grapple Gun 3 (bought with Karma)

Knowledges:
Seedy Hangouts: 4
Crime Syndicates: 4
Superhero History: 4
Investigative Procedure: 6
Local Area Knowledge of New York: 3

Qualities:
Adept 5
Martial artist (Wildcat) x2 (Bought with Karma)
-+1 to unarmed DV, +1 to called shots to increase Damage
-Watchful guard and Set-Up (Bought with Karma)
Toughness (10)
Guts (5)
Aptitude (Intimidation) (10)
High Pain Tolerance 3 (Bought with Karma)
Sinner (Citizen, later became criminal) -5
Bad Luck (-20)

Magic
Increased Reflexes 2 (3)
Increased Strength 3 (3)
Increased Skill (Infiltration 2) .5
Increased Skill (Unarmed Combat 2) 1
Great Leap 2 (.5)
Critical Strike 4 (1)
Killing Hands .5
Mystic Armor 1 (.5)

Gear:$25000 (5)
Lined Coat ($700)
Latex Face mask (set to constant Rorschach pattern cycle.) ($500)
Lockpick set $300
Grapple Gun $500
Standard Rope, 500m ($250)
Low level lifestyles x5 (different safehouses) 2 months. ($20000)

Notes
14 dice for unarmed attacks, and Base 8 damage for unarmed attacks. Watch out for him!

[Rayzorblades]

I take it that this is movie Rorschach.

[Stahlseele]

it says so on the label O.o

[Degausser]

So? Any responses to my rendition of our favorite inkblot hero? I briefly considered giving him high pain tolerance, but didn't know if that would make him too awesome. C'mon, give me some feedback people.

Also, what other heroes would you like to see?

[Stahlseele]

pretty good, and do go on and give him high pain tolerance as adept power, no karma limit, remember?

[Degausser]

Edited, gave him the quality 'High pain tolerance 3'

[Rayzorblades]

it says so on the label O.o

Ah man my bad, not much sleep at the time.

[Degausser]

Technically not a superhero . . . more like A Super . . . villianish heroish . . . she's in the Marvel Universe.

Silver Sable
Elf (30)

Strength:4(7)
Body:4(5)
Agility:6(9)
Reaction:5(8 )
Intuition:3
Charisma:4
Logic:3
Willpower:3(2 Originally, upped by 1 with Karma)
Edge:3

Essence 3.15
Init 8(11) Passes 1(3)

Physical Damage track: 11
Stun Damage track: 10

Skills
Group: Athletics 4 (Gymnastics 5)
Group: Close Combat 6 (4 originally, bought up 2 with Karma)
Group: Firearms 4(5)
Group: Stealth 4(Infiltration 5)
Throwing Weapons:5 (3 Originally, bought up 2 with Karma)
Ettiquite:2
Pilot: Aircraft: 4 (bought with Karma)

Knowledges:
Crime Syndicates:6
Local area Knowledge of: New York:4
Buisness Finance: 4
Language: Japanese:4

Qualities
Martial Artist (Ninjitsu) 2 (Bought with Karma)
-+1 die Gymnastics Dodge, +1 Die Infiltration tests
-Vicious Blow, Iaijutsu, Kick Attack (Bought with Karma)
Incompetent: Negotiation
*SINner-Criminal

Bioware
Synaptic Booster (lvl2) 1 essence
Muscle Toner lvl 2 (.4)
Muscle Augmentation, lvl 2 (.4)
Reflex Recorder (Gymnastics) (.1)
Reflex Recorder (Firearms group) (.25)
Superthyroid Gland (.7)

Contacts
*Due to her part as a major holder in the crime syndicates, she has a massive amount of contacts throughout the criminal underworld.

Gear
*Due to her part as a major holder in the crime syndicates, she has access to almost any weapon or technology she could want. She typically packs an HK XM30 (with all alternate guns, Regular and Gel rounds), Smartlinked contact lenses, an armored camo suit (arctic), Shuriken, and a monofiliment sword.

*Note: The cops have a criminal file on Sable, but cannot move against her because of lack of evidence and several contacts blocking their path with red tape. Nonetheless, the cops have a pretty good idea that she is behind a lot of crime in New York.

[The Jake]

I would think that Batman would be a cybered-up mundane character. The whole point is that he's a self-made superhero, and with the weight of a major defense contractor (Wayne Enterprises) behind him. In Shadowrun equivalent, it would be like having Ares making custom cyberware and other gear just for you.

In Shadowrun terms, I see Batman as a high level augmented human with delta grade bioware, cutting tech genetech/nanotech with the full weight of a AA megacorp behind him. Any augmentations he would should either be undetectable or easy to masquerade as something else. Realistically I would expect him him be as close to zero essence as possible without delving into the realms of cybermancy (biocompatibility + adapsin + deltaware).

On a sidenote, if you read the about Wayne Enterprises there is no doubt that in the SR world, it would be a AA rated megacorporation. In whichcase, Wayne would have the rights and privileges of extraterritoriality and could potentially have whatever the hell augmentations he wants....

- J.