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post Mar 15 2009, 06:59 PM
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Some AP values of flechette are still wrong.

Ares Viper Slivergun (AP +2)
HK XM30 - Shotgun (AP +1)
Remington 990 w/ Flechette (AP +2)
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post Mar 15 2009, 06:59 PM
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the mentioned specialities for walkers should also include those type of drones with more than 4 legs.
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (Coldan @ Mar 15 2009, 11:59 AM) *
Some AP values of flechette are still wrong.

Ares Viper Slivergun (AP +2)
HK XM30 - Shotgun (AP +1)
Remington 990 w/ Flechette (AP +2)

The +5 for the AP on the Remington Roomsweeper w/flechettes is in the wrong column, also.

And the HK XM30 doesn't say that it uses flechettes in shotgun mode, so I think that AP +1 is right.
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (hermit @ Mar 15 2009, 11:58 AM) *
p.128 "Pilot Anthroform (Reaction)"
correct: "Pilot Walker (Reaction)"

Actually, Pilot Anthroform is correct.
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:43 PM
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You would consider an arachnoid walker drone an anthroform?
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:44 PM
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Page 28 under the sidebar "Other Geopolitical Events":

This entry is either out of place or the date is incorrect.

"2062 New European Economic
Community formed by states and
megacorporations."

Also, in the pdf, the word "New" isn't searchable, comes out as "N ew" when cut and pasted.
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post Mar 15 2009, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE
Actually, Pilot Anthroform is correct.

Well, maybe changing that skill to walkers, and making anthroforms a specialisation (and Octopeds another, given there are three canon spider-ish walkers) would make sense.
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post Mar 15 2009, 08:21 PM
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Okay, so I may have been wrong - I thought anthroforms where legged (regardless of how many) creatures or objects. Turns out, that phrase is barely accurate for a bipedal specialization, & would likely better be referred to as bipedal...
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post Mar 15 2009, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Mar 15 2009, 03:21 PM) *
Okay, so I may have been wrong - I thought anthroforms where legged (regardless of how many) creatures or objects. Turns out, that phrase is barely accurate for a bipedal specialization, & would likely better be referred to as bipedal...


That's the funny thing about Latin: anthro- means "human."
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post Mar 15 2009, 09:23 PM
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That would be my point, yes.

Could it be that this is supposed to be "arthropods"? Then it would refer to things with a non-denominated number of legs. And the specialisations on things with a specific number of legs would make sense. Of course, 'Walkers' would still be more intuitive, I think.
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post Mar 15 2009, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE (Draco18s @ Mar 15 2009, 01:28 PM) *
That's the funny thing about Latin: anthro- means "human."


Actually, it's from the Greek.
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post Mar 16 2009, 04:28 AM
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p 183/184
Note that objects targeted by Combat spells get to
resist the damage as they would any ranged attack; use their Armor
rating x 2 (or just Armor against spells with elemental effects) to resist
the damage (Barriers, p. 166).

Should this be any combat spells or only indirect combat spells? If so, what indirect combat spells dont have an elemental effect? This would contract the example given on 184 about the ganger and the bike if its used for combat spells

Also, is this before or after the threshold test? Also, does the force of the spell affect the threshold hits? IE: If I cast at force 3 can I never affect a highly processed object? Or, does it only count hits after hitting the threshold?
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post Mar 16 2009, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (pbangarth @ Mar 15 2009, 06:26 PM) *
Actually, it's from the Greek.


Touche. I was a little quick in my posting.
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post Mar 16 2009, 11:40 PM
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On the map of North America:
  • Concord, New Hampshire is misspelled.
  • There should be a border line between Newfoundland and Quebec.
  • I was under the impression from past maps, that the two Virginia counties across the Chesapeake bay (attached to Maryland) were part of North Virginia, but the SR4A map shows them as part of CAS. See the Sixth World Wiki map for more detail.
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post Mar 17 2009, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE (Raizer @ Mar 15 2009, 11:28 PM) *
Should this be any combat spells or only indirect combat spells? If so, what indirect combat spells dont have an elemental effect? This would contract the example given on 184 about the ganger and the bike if its used for combat spells


Actually I can easily think of a case where indirect type spell wouldn't have an associated element.

Combat spell: Shockwave, AOE (or even single target)
blah blah blah.... Creates a wall of compressed air that slams into targets damaging them. Treat targets as force/2 less body for knockdown effects. (think HE bombs).

It does damage, it's obviously a spell, (and the system has rules for making your own like I just did), but it isn't elemental damage per se. Though you'll note I worked an elemental like damage side effect into it for balance sake.
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post Mar 17 2009, 12:22 AM
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Spells like Punch are indirect and lack an elemental effect. It is pure kinetic force hurled ad something.

And affecting air is an elemental effect.
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Certified Credstick (page 331)
  • The description says to "see the Certified Credstick Table, below", but the table is on page 267
  • The searchable text (under the PDF image) is spelled "Certied" both times.

Related to my Virginia question (previous post) I now realize that the map shows all of Virginia (including all of North Virginia) as CAS territory. No one adjusted the border to the south correctly.
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post Mar 17 2009, 05:06 AM
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QUOTE (MJBurrage @ Mar 17 2009, 12:31 AM) *
Certified Credstick (page 331)
  • The searchable text (under the PDF image) is spelled "Certied" both times.

There is no PDF image over the searchable text; all the text in the book is live. What you may be encountering is a problem with your PDF reader properly recognizing words that have ligatures in them -- the special "fi" character in cerified. I just checked in both the latest version of Adobe Acrobat, and the latest version of Preview for OSX, and they were both able to search for, find, and copy the word "certified" out of that page without a problem, in all instances.
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Okay, I'm going through the PDF and finding bookmarks that point to the wrong page.
p.46 - Ares Macrotechnology bookmark - Since none of the other megas have bookmarks, shouldn't the font size be reduced for Ares and the bookmark removed?

p.157 - Since there are no bookmarks for other tables, the bookmark for the Melee Modifier Table should be removed.

p.190 - The heading for "The Astral World" should be moved to the top of p.191 (and the bookmark adjusted as such)

p.191 - The bookmark for Astral Signatures points to p.191. It should go to p.192 instead.

p.194 - The bookmark for Adepts points to p.194. It should go to p.195 instead.

p.197 - The bookmark for Initiation points to p.197. It should go to p.198 instead.

p.198 - The bookmark for Foci points to p.198. It should go to p.199 instead.

p.199 - The bookmark for Power Foci points to p.199. It should go to p.200 instead.

p.202 - The bookmark for Street Grimoire points to p.202. It should go to p.203 instead.

p.209 - The bookmark for Manipulation Spells points to p.209. It should go to p.210 instead.

p.295 - For some reason, there's an extra bookmark here for Friends and Foes. It should be removed, and all the content under it moved to under the Critters bookmark.

p.297 - The bookmark for Weaknesses points to p.297. It should go to p.298 instead.

p.312 - The "b" in the bookmark for Availability and Buying Gear is not capitalized. It should be.

And there you have it. The complete list of problems with the PDF bookmarks.
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post Mar 17 2009, 07:30 AM
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Interesting, since the TOC was automatically generated and the bookmarks generated automatically based on that ... some of those -- like the extra Friends or Foes heading -- I've already debugged. The rest will be fun to hunt down! For that special brand of InDesign fun.

Thanks for painstakingly hunting all those down. We did a "Dartboard test" and didn't have any issues, but didn't test each and every bookmark.
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QUOTE (Adam @ Mar 17 2009, 12:06 AM) *
There is no PDF image over the searchable text; all the text in the book is live. What you may be encountering is a problem with your PDF reader properly recognizing words that have ligatures in them -- the special "fi" character in cerified. I just checked in both the latest version of Adobe Acrobat, and the latest version of Preview for OSX, and they were both able to search for, find, and copy the word "certified" out of that page without a problem, in all instances.

I use PDF-XChange Viewer. I had not checked Acrobat Reader, because I did not have the same issue on other pages (no idea why)

For anyone wondering why use PDF-XChange Viewer, it lets you edit bookmarks, and add text boxes (which means I can insert errata in to my PDF books).
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p.48 Shaiwase
"What don't they do?" should be
"What don't they do?"
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p. 283

The Red Samurai Detachment and their Lieutenant each have Cybereyes Rating 3, but only Mods for Rating 2. Maybe it should be Rating 2 (as it was pre-SR4A)?
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p. 51, sidebar fashion brands:
Laurentine de Lion (Upper class Professional) Soul of Seoul (Neo-Oriental Exec)
should be
Laurentine de Lion (Upper class Professional), Soul of Seoul (Neo-Oriental Exec)

CD/Common Denominator (Horizon) Chungo-Ko (Eastern Tiger),
should be
CD/Common Denominator (Horizon), Chungo-Ko (Eastern Tiger),

Two commas are missing.

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p. 131, social modifiers table, Con Modifiers, Character has plausible-seeming Fsupporting evidence
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