20th Edition Errata, Errata for the new 20th Anniversary edition of SR4 |
20th Edition Errata, Errata for the new 20th Anniversary edition of SR4 |
Mar 15 2009, 06:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 11-July 07 Member No.: 12,213 |
Some AP values of flechette are still wrong.
Ares Viper Slivergun (AP +2) HK XM30 - Shotgun (AP +1) Remington 990 w/ Flechette (AP +2) |
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Mar 15 2009, 06:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 14,331 |
the mentioned specialities for walkers should also include those type of drones with more than 4 legs.
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Mar 15 2009, 07:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 16,609 |
Some AP values of flechette are still wrong. Ares Viper Slivergun (AP +2) HK XM30 - Shotgun (AP +1) Remington 990 w/ Flechette (AP +2) The +5 for the AP on the Remington Roomsweeper w/flechettes is in the wrong column, also. And the HK XM30 doesn't say that it uses flechettes in shotgun mode, so I think that AP +1 is right. |
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Mar 15 2009, 07:35 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
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Mar 15 2009, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 14,331 |
You would consider an arachnoid walker drone an anthroform?
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Mar 15 2009, 07:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 17-September 06 From: Utah USA Member No.: 9,402 |
Page 28 under the sidebar "Other Geopolitical Events":
This entry is either out of place or the date is incorrect. "2062 New European Economic Community formed by states and megacorporations." Also, in the pdf, the word "New" isn't searchable, comes out as "N ew" when cut and pasted. |
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Mar 15 2009, 07:45 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
QUOTE Actually, Pilot Anthroform is correct. Well, maybe changing that skill to walkers, and making anthroforms a specialisation (and Octopeds another, given there are three canon spider-ish walkers) would make sense. |
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Mar 15 2009, 08:21 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
Okay, so I may have been wrong - I thought anthroforms where legged (regardless of how many) creatures or objects. Turns out, that phrase is barely accurate for a bipedal specialization, & would likely better be referred to as bipedal...
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Mar 15 2009, 08:28 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
Okay, so I may have been wrong - I thought anthroforms where legged (regardless of how many) creatures or objects. Turns out, that phrase is barely accurate for a bipedal specialization, & would likely better be referred to as bipedal... That's the funny thing about Latin: anthro- means "human." |
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Mar 15 2009, 09:23 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
That would be my point, yes.
Could it be that this is supposed to be "arthropods"? Then it would refer to things with a non-denominated number of legs. And the specialisations on things with a specific number of legs would make sense. Of course, 'Walkers' would still be more intuitive, I think. |
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Mar 15 2009, 11:26 PM
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Old Man of the North Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 10,006 Joined: 14-August 03 From: Just north of the Centre of the Universe Member No.: 5,463 |
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Mar 16 2009, 04:28 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: 7-July 02 From: NY Member No.: 2,942 |
p 183/184
Note that objects targeted by Combat spells get to resist the damage as they would any ranged attack; use their Armor rating x 2 (or just Armor against spells with elemental effects) to resist the damage (Barriers, p. 166). Should this be any combat spells or only indirect combat spells? If so, what indirect combat spells dont have an elemental effect? This would contract the example given on 184 about the ganger and the bike if its used for combat spells Also, is this before or after the threshold test? Also, does the force of the spell affect the threshold hits? IE: If I cast at force 3 can I never affect a highly processed object? Or, does it only count hits after hitting the threshold? |
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Mar 16 2009, 06:48 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
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Mar 16 2009, 11:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
On the map of North America:
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Mar 17 2009, 12:04 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Validating Posts: 2,283 Joined: 12-October 07 Member No.: 13,662 |
Should this be any combat spells or only indirect combat spells? If so, what indirect combat spells dont have an elemental effect? This would contract the example given on 184 about the ganger and the bike if its used for combat spells Actually I can easily think of a case where indirect type spell wouldn't have an associated element. Combat spell: Shockwave, AOE (or even single target) blah blah blah.... Creates a wall of compressed air that slams into targets damaging them. Treat targets as force/2 less body for knockdown effects. (think HE bombs). It does damage, it's obviously a spell, (and the system has rules for making your own like I just did), but it isn't elemental damage per se. Though you'll note I worked an elemental like damage side effect into it for balance sake. |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 14,331 |
Spells like Punch are indirect and lack an elemental effect. It is pure kinetic force hurled ad something.
And affecting air is an elemental effect. |
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Mar 17 2009, 04:31 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
Certified Credstick (page 331)
Related to my Virginia question (previous post) I now realize that the map shows all of Virginia (including all of North Virginia) as CAS territory. No one adjusted the border to the south correctly. |
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Mar 17 2009, 05:06 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Certified Credstick (page 331)
There is no PDF image over the searchable text; all the text in the book is live. What you may be encountering is a problem with your PDF reader properly recognizing words that have ligatures in them -- the special "fi" character in cerified. I just checked in both the latest version of Adobe Acrobat, and the latest version of Preview for OSX, and they were both able to search for, find, and copy the word "certified" out of that page without a problem, in all instances. |
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Mar 17 2009, 06:58 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: 18-November 08 Member No.: 16,609 |
Okay, I'm going through the PDF and finding bookmarks that point to the wrong page.
p.46 - Ares Macrotechnology bookmark - Since none of the other megas have bookmarks, shouldn't the font size be reduced for Ares and the bookmark removed? p.157 - Since there are no bookmarks for other tables, the bookmark for the Melee Modifier Table should be removed. p.190 - The heading for "The Astral World" should be moved to the top of p.191 (and the bookmark adjusted as such) p.191 - The bookmark for Astral Signatures points to p.191. It should go to p.192 instead. p.194 - The bookmark for Adepts points to p.194. It should go to p.195 instead. p.197 - The bookmark for Initiation points to p.197. It should go to p.198 instead. p.198 - The bookmark for Foci points to p.198. It should go to p.199 instead. p.199 - The bookmark for Power Foci points to p.199. It should go to p.200 instead. p.202 - The bookmark for Street Grimoire points to p.202. It should go to p.203 instead. p.209 - The bookmark for Manipulation Spells points to p.209. It should go to p.210 instead. p.295 - For some reason, there's an extra bookmark here for Friends and Foes. It should be removed, and all the content under it moved to under the Critters bookmark. p.297 - The bookmark for Weaknesses points to p.297. It should go to p.298 instead. p.312 - The "b" in the bookmark for Availability and Buying Gear is not capitalized. It should be. And there you have it. The complete list of problems with the PDF bookmarks. |
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Mar 17 2009, 07:30 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Interesting, since the TOC was automatically generated and the bookmarks generated automatically based on that ... some of those -- like the extra Friends or Foes heading -- I've already debugged. The rest will be fun to hunt down! For that special brand of InDesign fun.
Thanks for painstakingly hunting all those down. We did a "Dartboard test" and didn't have any issues, but didn't test each and every bookmark. |
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Mar 17 2009, 07:47 AM
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Moving Target Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 748 Joined: 22-April 07 From: Vermont Member No.: 11,507 |
There is no PDF image over the searchable text; all the text in the book is live. What you may be encountering is a problem with your PDF reader properly recognizing words that have ligatures in them -- the special "fi" character in cerified. I just checked in both the latest version of Adobe Acrobat, and the latest version of Preview for OSX, and they were both able to search for, find, and copy the word "certified" out of that page without a problem, in all instances. I use PDF-XChange Viewer. I had not checked Acrobat Reader, because I did not have the same issue on other pages (no idea why) For anyone wondering why use PDF-XChange Viewer, it lets you edit bookmarks, and add text boxes (which means I can insert errata in to my PDF books). |
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Mar 17 2009, 09:16 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,336 Joined: 24-February 08 From: Albuquerque, New Mexico Member No.: 15,706 |
p.48 Shaiwase
"What don't they do?" should be "What don't they do?" |
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Mar 17 2009, 11:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 254 Joined: 23-November 07 Member No.: 14,331 |
p. 283
The Red Samurai Detachment and their Lieutenant each have Cybereyes Rating 3, but only Mods for Rating 2. Maybe it should be Rating 2 (as it was pre-SR4A)? |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:09 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
p. 51, sidebar fashion brands:
Laurentine de Lion (Upper class Professional) Soul of Seoul (Neo-Oriental Exec) should be Laurentine de Lion (Upper class Professional), Soul of Seoul (Neo-Oriental Exec) CD/Common Denominator (Horizon) Chungo-Ko (Eastern Tiger), should be CD/Common Denominator (Horizon), Chungo-Ko (Eastern Tiger), Two commas are missing. |
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Mar 17 2009, 12:25 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 17-May 08 From: Germany Member No.: 15,983 |
p. 131, social modifiers table, Con Modifiers, Character has plausible-seeming Fsupporting evidence
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