Timeline and other returning/newbie questions Options

[Callisandria]

Hi folks,

Little history please be patient (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My husband and I used to be addicted to Shadowrun. I used to post on some of the sites and the mailing lists as Kismet, but I doubt anyone would remember me after ten years. We own every book up to Dragons of the Sixth world, but we really stopped playing around the time of Year of the Comet. We moved on to the world of MMORPG's (I would kill for a Shadowrun MMO but that's another story).

We had twin boys in December and are going to be spending a lot of time at home, but we don't have enough time to play an MMO so we're thinking about coming back to Shadowrun and reforming our old gaming group. I don't really care about the official rules. Our group came up with our own system years ago, we just change the setting and characters of our games. The setting and the story arc's of the world are really all that I am interested in. So if you guys could help me out a bit it would be very appreciated:

Is there a site that has a basic timeline of world events leading up to 2070(or whatever year it is currently)?

Is there a list of all books in the order of release? The official Shadowrun website is rather clunky and I couldn't figure out what came first.

Did they release novels to advance the story, like with the dragon heart saga? Where can I find those?

Has there been any further delving into the immortal elf/earthdawn story arc? Harlequin et all were always some of our favorites.

Which books would you recommend for pure story value?

Thanks for the help!

[ICPiK]

There is a time line on wiki i believe.

[raggedhalo]

Emergence and Ghost Cartels advance the SR4 story most.

List of books - courtesy of Wikipedia

[ICPiK]

Yep emergence and unwired are huge as far as the wireless world and the technomancer issue.

[Degausser]

Just a quick note, in the Shadowrun timeline, it is now 2071. This is somewhat important because Technomancers (introduced in the main book) don't get exposed (even to the shadow community) or widely accepted until the end of 2070 (November, IIRC.) Before that, no one knew about them, then there were riots, and people (even fellow shadowrunners) were killing them off left and right, fearing them to be monsters or agents of Deus, or evil mutants, or that any one of them could crash the entire matrix.

Some of them (like the Seattle-bassed Clockwork) still believe they are a menace, while others are technomancer posers.

[Larsine]

Just a quick note, in the Shadowrun timeline, it is now 2071.

According to SR4A it is now 2072.

Lars

[Degausser]

According to SR4A it is now 2072.

Lars

Ah, see, I don't have SR4A, as I think SR4 is perfectly good

[Tiger Eyes]

Has there been any further delving into the immortal elf/earthdawn story arc? Harlequin et all were always some of our favorites.

The upcoming adventure series titled Dawn of the Artifacts might be of interest...

[Larsine]

SR4 was published in 2005, and it was then 2070 in Shadowrun timeline.

Shadowrun is set only sixty-five years in the future

Ah, see, I don't have SR4A, as I think SR4 is perfectly good

So do you also ignore other rule/soucebooks that advance the timeline?

As it is now 2009, it should be 2075 in Shadowrun timeline, but apparantly we have skippe two years somewhere:

Shadowrun is set only sixty-three years in the future

When Street Magic was published in 2006 it was still 2070 in SR.
When Augmentation and Emergence was published in 2007 it was still 2070 in SR.
Not until Arsenal, Ghost Cartels, Unwired and Runners Companion was published in 208 was the SR timeline advanced to 2071.

Lars

[AllTheNothing]

The upcoming adventure series titled Dawn of the Artifacts might be of interest...

When?

[Wesley Street]

Do you really expect a definitive answer to that question? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Stahlseele]

The upcoming adventure series titled Dawn of the Artifacts might be of interest...

Please tell me Uncle/aunty(whatever) Ancient gets to take Care of most of this Baby Tigger? ^^

[SincereAgape]

As it is now 2009, it should be 2075 in Shadowrun timeline, but apparantly we have skippe two years somewhere:

I have a feeling by the end of this fiscal year (2009) two or three years in Shadowrun timeline might pass. Dawn of the Artifacts (Which sounds great by the way, and if Ghost Cartels is a sign of things to come, then we're in store for a treat) maybe the big event of 2072 for the SR universe. So in essence by the time 2010 comes around, we maybe in 2073 or 2074 in the SR timeline.

[Synner]

Please tell me Uncle/aunty(whatever) Ancient gets to take Care of most of this Baby Tigger? ^^

Actually, Bobby's been a little busy with other projects. Principle writing on the first two installments of Dawn of the Artifacts is courtesy of Jennifer Harding (aka Tiger Eyes herself). I'm very happy with the way this was shaping up.

[AllTheNothing]

Do you really expect a definitive answer to that question? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

No, it was just to tell that I'm looking foreward for it.

[Callisandria]

Wow this forum moves fast! I'm so happy that so many people are still playing Shadowrun. Thanks so much for the information. I hadn't thought to look for a SR wiki(sleep deprivation ftw). I'm excited about the Matrix changes, that part of the old Shadowrun was pretty clunky. Noone in our old group ever wanted to play the decker so it was almost always an npc. After reading that timeline, I have a few more questions:

Which book covers the plotline for Lofwyr and Ainthe Oakforest stepping down from the Council of Princes?

Did the Phillipines win the war for their country, or is it still a province of Japan?

With Hugh's assassination did Nadja Daviar become president?

I have never purchased a net book before, but the price difference is making me consider that(and there are suddenly so many I want to buy hehe!). If I pay for it and download it can I print it out? Can I send it in an email to the other members of our group, or is it something that's a one time only file?

Thanks again for the help!

[Malachi]

Which book covers the plotline for Lofwyr and Ainthe Oakforest stepping down from the Council of Princes?

None, unfortunately. It was an event that was silently "skipped" when SR4 began. I believe it was mentioned at one time that this was (and hopefully still is) the subject of a book.

Did the Phillipines win the war for their country, or is it still a province of Japan?

Yes they won their independence. When the previous Emperor died during the events of Year of the Comet the new child Emperor withdrew the Yomi Island decree as well as all the IJA soldiers. The Huk declared open rebellion and one their independence with the help of the Great Dragon Masaru. Information on this is scattered in Year of the Comet, Shadows of Asia, and Dragons of the Sixth World.

With Hugh's assassination did Nadja Daviar become president?

I don't remember exactly, but I don't think so. Nadja Daviar has disappeared for some time now.

I have never purchased a net book before, but the price difference is making me consider that(and there are suddenly so many I want to buy hehe!). If I pay for it and download it can I print it out? Can I send it in an email to the other members of our group, or is it something that's a one time only file?

Technically you could. You're not really "supposed" to just share it with all your friends freely, however. I don't think CGL will send 'runners after you for passing it around your gaming group, just don't post it on the web for everyone to download. If the other members of your group are really liking the books I would encourage them to purchase their own copies in order to support CGL and the Shadowrun brand.

[Wesley Street]

Which book covers the plotline for Lofwyr and Ainthe Oakforest stepping down from the Council of Princes?

It hasn't been explored in any real depth. All that we know is that the Tir Council of Princes was dissolved and that Larry Zincan, a former ork Prince, is now the Chairman of the Star Chamber. Horizon is working the PR angle for the new Tir leadership.

Did the Phillipines win the war for their country, or is it still a province of Japan?

A Huk uprising was mentioned in Shadows of Asia...

With Hugh's assassination did Nadja Daviar become president?

No, she disappeared after Haeffner was killed by the New Revolution. Where she went is one of the most frequently asked of questions. Gene Simone took over for a time and in 2068, Angela Colloton was elected president.

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[Adam]

Wow this forum moves fast! I'm so happy that so many people are still playing Shadowrun. Thanks so much for the information. I hadn't thought to look for a SR wiki(sleep deprivation ftw).

http://wiki.dumpshock.com

I have never purchased a net book before, but the price difference is making me consider that(and there are suddenly so many I want to buy hehe!). If I pay for it and download it can I print it out?

Yes. There are no restrictions on printing, copying and pasting, etc.

Can I send it in an email to the other members of our group, or is it something that's a one time only file?

No, please don't -- while we totally understand reasonable use of our PDFs within a gaming group [printing out some reference sheets to pass around, cutting and pasting some stuff into a quick reference for the person playing the hacker, printing out a few pages of the story to give to the runner team as they discover info in game, etc], sending the entire file to someone else is outside of the scope of that reasonable use.

[Stahlseele]

Actually, Bobby's been a little busy with other projects. Principle writing on the first two installments of Dawn of the Artifacts is courtesy of Jennifer Harding (aka Tiger Eyes herself). I'm very happy with the way this was shaping up.

nothing against her eyeness, but i am a bit of an Ancient History fanboy i am afraid ^^
I'll give it a read, see how her style works out for me

[Callisandria]

Thanks for the responses!

If Nadja has disappeared who is in charge of the Draco Foundation now?

After discussing it with my husband, we will probably buy the sourcebooks in print form to complete our collection anyway. I would be afraid of a computer crash losing the book. I knew better than to post it anywhere of course. I do want to support the game and the authors that work so hard to make it shine.

Which book mentions the Tir takeover? I guess that means the Rinelle's(sp?) rebellion was ultimately successful? I'm one of those geeks that would scour every book for entries from Laughing Man et all, and if I recall correctly it was fairly obvious that Harlequin was behind that movement.

I actually kind of like that there are some mysteries that have never been solved officially. My all time favorite sourcebook was Dunklezahn's secrets for that very reason. Although it would be nice to have official answers to most things after such a long period of time.

Thanks again for the help. Now if one of you could make these boys go to bed so I can sleep!

[Degausser]

Thanks for the responses!

If Nadja has disappeared who is in charge of the Draco Foundation now?

Sorry, dunno. I never kept track of the Draco foundation myself.

After discussing it with my husband, we will probably buy the sourcebooks in print form to complete our collection anyway. I would be afraid of a computer crash losing the book. I knew better than to post it anywhere of course. I do want to support the game and the authors that work so hard to make it shine.

Which book mentions the Tir takeover? I guess that means the Rinelle's(sp?) rebellion was ultimately successful? I'm one of those geeks that would scour every book for entries from Laughing Man et all, and if I recall correctly it was fairly obvious that Harlequin was behind that movement.

The SR3 Fluff Book Target: North America has a big ol' listing of Tir. Sadly, the book is out of print by the, now Defunct, FASA. Basically, the elven princes were finally forced to realize that their economy had completely and utterly collapsed (No imports or exports WILL do that . . .) and the peasants were out for blood. Large amounts of power shifts happened, and somehow an ork was elected president. Pretty big slap in the face to all elven supremisists.

I actually kind of like that there are some mysteries that have never been solved officially. My all time favorite sourcebook was Dunklezahn's secrets for that very reason. Although it would be nice to have official answers to most things after such a long period of time.

Thanks again for the help. Now if one of you could make these boys go to bed so I can sleep!

Dunklezahn's secrets were explained, though I am not sure where. Someone on the board told them to me (though, being the 'net, he could have been messin' with me, you never know.) Anyway, it was written in some novel, and has to do with Earthdawn.

[Degausser]

Thanks for the responses!

If Nadja has disappeared who is in charge of the Draco Foundation now?

Sorry, dunno. I never kept track of the Draco foundation myself.

After discussing it with my husband, we will probably buy the sourcebooks in print form to complete our collection anyway. I would be afraid of a computer crash losing the book. I knew better than to post it anywhere of course. I do want to support the game and the authors that work so hard to make it shine.

Which book mentions the Tir takeover? I guess that means the Rinelle's(sp?) rebellion was ultimately successful? I'm one of those geeks that would scour every book for entries from Laughing Man et all, and if I recall correctly it was fairly obvious that Harlequin was behind that movement.

The SR3 Fluff Book Target: North America has a big ol' listing of Tir. Sadly, the book is out of print by the, now Defunct, FASA. Basically, the elven princes were finally forced to realize that their economy had completely and utterly collapsed (No imports or exports WILL do that . . .) and the peasants were out for blood. Large amounts of power shifts happened, and somehow an ork was elected president. Pretty big slap in the face to all elven supremisists.

I actually kind of like that there are some mysteries that have never been solved officially. My all time favorite sourcebook was Dunklezahn's secrets for that very reason. Although it would be nice to have official answers to most things after such a long period of time.

Thanks again for the help. Now if one of you could make these boys go to bed so I can sleep!

Dunklezahn's secrets were explained, though I am not sure where. Someone on the board told them to me (though, being the 'net, he could have been messin' with me, you never know.) Anyway, it was written in some novel, and has to do with Earthdawn.

[Degausser]

Thanks for the responses!

If Nadja has disappeared who is in charge of the Draco Foundation now?

Sorry, dunno. I never kept track of the Draco foundation myself.

After discussing it with my husband, we will probably buy the sourcebooks in print form to complete our collection anyway. I would be afraid of a computer crash losing the book. I knew better than to post it anywhere of course. I do want to support the game and the authors that work so hard to make it shine.

Which book mentions the Tir takeover? I guess that means the Rinelle's(sp?) rebellion was ultimately successful? I'm one of those geeks that would scour every book for entries from Laughing Man et all, and if I recall correctly it was fairly obvious that Harlequin was behind that movement.

The SR3 Fluff Book Target: North America has a big ol' listing of Tir. Sadly, the book is out of print by the, now Defunct, FASA. Basically, the elven princes were finally forced to realize that their economy had completely and utterly collapsed (No imports or exports WILL do that . . .) and the peasants were out for blood. Large amounts of power shifts happened, and somehow an ork was elected president. Pretty big slap in the face to all elven supremisists.

I actually kind of like that there are some mysteries that have never been solved officially. My all time favorite sourcebook was Dunklezahn's secrets for that very reason. Although it would be nice to have official answers to most things after such a long period of time.

Thanks again for the help. Now if one of you could make these boys go to bed so I can sleep!

Dunklezahn's secrets were explained, though I am not sure where. Someone on the board told them to me (though, being the 'net, he could have been messin' with me, you never know.) Anyway, it was written in some novel, and has to do with Earthdawn.

[Degausser]

Thanks for the responses!

If Nadja has disappeared who is in charge of the Draco Foundation now?

Sorry, dunno. I never kept track of the Draco foundation myself.

After discussing it with my husband, we will probably buy the sourcebooks in print form to complete our collection anyway. I would be afraid of a computer crash losing the book. I knew better than to post it anywhere of course. I do want to support the game and the authors that work so hard to make it shine.

Which book mentions the Tir takeover? I guess that means the Rinelle's(sp?) rebellion was ultimately successful? I'm one of those geeks that would scour every book for entries from Laughing Man et all, and if I recall correctly it was fairly obvious that Harlequin was behind that movement.

The SR3 Fluff Book Target: North America has a big ol' listing of Tir. Sadly, the book is out of print by the, now Defunct, FASA. Basically, the elven princes were finally forced to realize that their economy had completely and utterly collapsed (No imports or exports WILL do that . . .) and the peasants were out for blood. Large amounts of power shifts happened, and somehow an ork was elected president. Pretty big slap in the face to all elven supremisists.

I actually kind of like that there are some mysteries that have never been solved officially. My all time favorite sourcebook was Dunklezahn's secrets for that very reason. Although it would be nice to have official answers to most things after such a long period of time.

Thanks again for the help. Now if one of you could make these boys go to bed so I can sleep!

Dunklezahn's secrets were explained, though I am not sure where. Someone on the board told them to me (though, being the 'net, he could have been messin' with me, you never know.) Anyway, it was written in some novel, and has to do with Earthdawn.