 Using First Aid, then Heal, on the same set of wounds, .. does that work? |
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 May 11 2009, 11:43 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 20-April 09 From: Sydney 'plex Member No.: 17,094  |
Hi all, just wondering whether it is possible to (i) use First Aid on a set of wounds, and then (ii) use Heal spell on the same set of (remaining) wounds? It seems from the healing rules that you cannot use first aid if you've already magically healed - but what about the other way round? The Heal spell is silent on the issue. Thanks in advance for any replies.
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May 11 2009, 12:09 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Yes.
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May 12 2009, 02:32 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
What more need be said...
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May 12 2009, 03:13 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 11 2009, 05:09 AM)  Yes. Ancient History is wrong. The answer is "Frag yeah, that's legal! and recommended." BlueMax |
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May 12 2009, 03:14 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 10,289 Joined: 2-October 08 Member No.: 16,392 |
I thought it was Heal, then First Aid.
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May 12 2009, 03:15 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 11 2009, 08:14 PM) I thought it was Heal, then First Aid. Other way around my friend... You want mundane before magical if you can get it... |
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May 12 2009, 03:19 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Draco18s @ May 11 2009, 08:14 PM) I thought it was Heal, then First Aid. You can do it either way but if you First Aid first, the mage fights less drain. |
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May 12 2009, 03:23 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (BlueMax @ May 12 2009, 04:19 AM) You can do it either way but if you First Aid first, the mage fights less drain. No, First Aid may not be applied if a set of wounds has been magically healed. |
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May 12 2009, 03:27 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 11 2009, 08:23 PM) No, First Aid may not be applied if a set of wounds has been magically healed. Ditto... once magic has been applied, mundane Firts Aid will provide no benefit... |
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May 12 2009, 04:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 20-April 09 From: Sydney 'plex Member No.: 17,094 |
Thanks all, I just thought I'd check, because in earlier editions I'm pretty sure mundane healing ang magical healing were mutually exclusive. But in SR4, if you do it in the right order, it appears you can double up (assuming your mage is willing to risk the drain). Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 12 2009, 04:15 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 11 2009, 07:23 PM) No, First Aid may not be applied if a set of wounds has been magically healed. Err, sorry. I kept thinking First Aid and Medicine operated similarly. "Halp! I've fallen into the realism trap and I can't get up!" BlueMax |
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May 12 2009, 04:16 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Psikerlord @ May 11 2009, 08:01 PM) Thanks all, I just thought I'd check, because in earlier editions I'm pretty sure mundane healing ang magical healing were mutually exclusive. But in SR4, if you do it in the right order, it appears you can double up (assuming your mage is willing to risk the drain). Cheers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Wait. It gets better. Even if your mage suffers drain.. you can First Aid away that too. My team regularly washes away damage. It's like all I can do is kill them. BlueMax /And it breaks my heart. // no wait, I'll break theirs. |
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May 12 2009, 04:24 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
QUOTE (BlueMax @ May 12 2009, 05:15 AM) Err, sorry. I kept thinking First Aid and Medicine operated similarly. "Halp! I've fallen into the realism trap and I can't get up!" BlueMax Hey, if realism had anything to do with it, no damage would be healed by First Aid at all - you'd just have a much smaller chance of infection, bleeding to death, pain, and various other complications of your injuries. |
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May 12 2009, 04:32 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,336 Joined: 25-February 08 From: San Mateo CA Member No.: 15,708 |
QUOTE (Ancient History @ May 11 2009, 09:24 PM) Hey, if realism had anything to do with it, no damage would be healed by First Aid at all - you'd just have a much smaller chance of infection, bleeding to death, pain, and various other complications of your injuries. Read my sig. I was honest about calling realism a trap. And I am embarrassed that I fell into it. BlueMax /serious Max //is serious |
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May 12 2009, 11:21 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 292 Joined: 20-April 09 From: Sydney 'plex Member No.: 17,094 |
Hmm.. oh yeah, First Aid helps with stun damage... awesome!!
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