Seattle 2072 PDF + Print Pre Order, Welcome Home Options

[Adam]

Seattle 2072, the second full-color hardcover as part of our 20th Anniversary of Shadowrun celebration, is available now in PDF, and the print version is also available -- along with the PDF + Print Pre-Order combo. We anticipate shipping these books in October.

This 200 page book is the ultimate look at Seattle, presenting the City on the Sound in full-color, like you've never seen her before.

Preview the first seven pages of Seattle 2072, including Tables of Contents and fiction from Kris Katzen.

Welcome Home

It's a screwed up city. Isolated from the rest of the UCAS, it's haven for criminals—smugglers, syndicates, gangers. Legal criminals, too—megacorporations, governments, politicians.

As beautiful as she is dysfunctional, Seattle is urban sprawl amid rolling hills and forests nestled up to man-made wonders next door to natural and man-made disasters. Whether you're a native or not, Seattle will draw you in like no other.

You can run for a lifetime and never leave Seattle, but some say you can't run for a lifetime without entering.

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[tsuyoshikentsu]

Baseball? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[knasser]

Downloading now.

You should really give us more warning about these things. I could have got up a couple of hours earlier if I'd known. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Looking good, btw. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

K.

[knasser]

The law permits notification purely in AR, but inability to read or even see the [corporate interdiction zone] signs is due to, say, being too poor, SINless or ignorant to have AR access, is not considered an excuse to ignore them.

I think I'm going to enjoy the detail of this book. And I hope, as I'm starting to get a little sweet taste of, Knight Errant are turning out to be a little bit of a Frying Pan to Fire progression for Seattle. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

K.

[knasser]

The maps are somewhat less awesome than might be hoped. They lack scales for a start. And yet again, I'm left staring at the map of Downtown wondering where the supposedly massive and significant Renraku Arcology, now ACHE, actually is. It's not on the maps. The description in the Downtown section gives no suggestion as to location and it's not listed in the compilation of locations at the back of the book. So just like in Runner Havens and just like in New Seattle, it's notable through omission. That is... irritating. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/frown.gif)

I will say that the artwork in this book is spectacular. The dancer on page 98 is spectacular and I adore the way she has the commlink strapped into her gartner so that men can tip her by slotting their credstick there in place of ten dollar bills.

K.

[BookWyrm]

All I need is the print page count and the ISBN-13 number. For now. Please?

[knasser]

All I need is the print page count and the ISBN-13 number. For now. Please?

What for? The PDF has 202 actual pages, including cover and internal panel. The page numbers themselves go upto 200. There's no ISBN that I can see.

K.

[BookWyrm]

I need the page count and ISBN-13 numbers for the actual print book, NOT the PDF. These will help me if I need to order it through places like Borders or Barnes & Noble if I can't find it through my usual gaming sources.

While I like the idea of PDFs, I don't have the resources right now to print out and bind a massive file like Seattle 2072.

[knasser]

I need the page count and ISBN-13 numbers for the actual print book, NOT the PDF. These will help me if I need to order it through places like Borders or Barnes & Noble if I can't find it through my usual gaming sources.

While I like the idea of PDFs, I don't have the resources right now to print out and bind a massive file like Seattle 2072.

Right. I understood that you needed the page count for the print book. I thought the page count for the PDF might answer the question. I did reference what were covers and inset panels so that the print version could be worked out.

Sorry couldn't help.

K.

[Adam]

If any store needs to know the page count to order the book, I want some of the drugs THEY are on. That must be some _good_ stuff. It's 200 pages, just like the writeup says.

ISBN-13: 978-1-934857-58-8

[BookWyrm]

Thank you, Adam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Truth be told, the page count is for my personal edification. Call me a completist. :shrug:

[oboreruhito]

I'm left staring at the map of Downtown wondering where the supposedly massive and significant Renraku Arcology, now ACHE, actually is. It's not on the maps. The description in the Downtown section gives no suggestion as to location

I don't think it's moved since the 1E downtown map, though anyone from CGL can happily tell me otherwise. It should be a rectangular chunk west of 4th Avenue, from James St. to S. King St.

and it's not listed in the compilation of locations at the back of the book.

It is, though unhelpfully listed as Renraku Arcology at 1 Renraku Avenue.

[knasser]

I don't think it's moved since the 1E downtown map, though anyone from CGL can happily tell me otherwise. It should be a rectangular chunk west of 4th Avenue, from James St. to S. King St.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) No, I hadn't thought that it might have moved since 1st edition. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) But I don't have the 1st edition maps. This is quite an oversight for the book, imo.

"Where's the Arcology gone?"
"It moved."

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)

It is, though unhelpfully listed as Renraku Arcology at 1 Renraku Avenue.

You're right on both counts. It is listed and it is unhelpful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

Thank you very much for the Google Map, however. That really is helpful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

K.

[oboreruhito]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/grinbig.gif) No, I hadn't thought that it might have moved since 1st edition. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) But I don't have the 1st edition maps. This is quite an oversight for the book, imo.

Now that I think about it... I'm not sure if there's been a street-level downtown Seattle map since the one on the inside cover of the 1E corebook.

"Where's the Arcology gone?"
"It moved."

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rotfl.gif)

Hey, it could've pulled a SimCity 2000, fired up some rockets and flown across town for all I know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

Thank you very much for the Google Map, however. That really is helpful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

You're welcome! Anyone know if it'd be some sort of copyright violation to map out the rest of the Seattle 2072 locations that way?

[Rotbart van Dain...]

Hey, it could've pulled a SimCity 2000, fired up some rockets and flown across town for all I know.

That's only funny as long as one doesn't remember it can pretty much do that.

The fusion reactors in the basement can make it fly all over town, in fact.

[DWC]

Neat book. Great art. Glad I picked it up. Amusingly, my pre-ordered copy of SR4A also showed up in the mail today.

[Kerrang]

Neat book. Great art. Glad I picked it up. Amusingly, my pre-ordered copy of SR4A also showed up in the mail today.

Oh, the agony! My copy still has not shipped. The Gods of Gaming must have it out for me...

Maybe they are trying to tell me that I shouldn't have let the runners sleaze through the last two missions without a single fight. Perhaps a TPK is in order for the next session as a sacrifice to appease the Gods so that they might bless me with their favor.

[Trillinon]

I don't think it's moved since the 1E downtown map, though anyone from CGL can happily tell me otherwise. It should be a rectangular chunk west of 4th Avenue, from James St. to S. King St.


It is, though unhelpfully listed as Renraku Arcology at 1 Renraku Avenue.

To this day I still want to cry when I see that Seattle let Renraku build an arcology in Pioneer Square. It would kind of be like allowing Six Flags to build a water park in the Washington DC Mall.

[BlueMax]

To this day I still want to cry when I see that Seattle let Renraku build an arcology in Pioneer Square. It would kind of be like allowing Six Flags to build a water park in the Washington DC Mall.

Why o why did you not submit this before they filmed Idiocracy?


BlueMax

[BlueMax]

To this day I still want to cry when I see that Seattle let Renraku build an arcology in Pioneer Square. It would kind of be like allowing Six Flags to build a water park in the Washington DC Mall.

Why o why did you not submit this before they filmed Idiocracy?


BlueMax

[RunnerPaul]

Now that I think about it... I'm not sure if there's been a street-level downtown Seattle map since the one on the inside cover of the 1E corebook.

I believe that the same map got reprinted in the original Seattle Sourcebook as well. Still nothing more recent than First Edition though.

[Larsine]

I believe that the same map got reprinted in the original Seattle Sourcebook as well. Still nothing more recent than First Edition though.

That's why you need to own every SR book ever published (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

Lars

[RunnerPaul]

That's why you need to own every SR book ever published (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spin.gif)

Except Sprawl Sites. No one needs Sprawl Sites.

[Bull]

Except Sprawl Sites. No one needs Sprawl Sites.

Are you kidding me? I've gotten more use outta Sprawl Sites than almost any other single non-core book. Between a slew of adventure hooks, some quickie maps, and all the other goodies in there, it's a GM's Toolbox just waiting to be opened (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Now, Sprawl Maps are moderately less useful. And DMZ even moreso. Followed by most 1st and 2nd ed location books.

Bull

[RunnerPaul]

Between a slew of adventure hooks,

While the tables of adventure hooks aren't so bad, There's nothing on there especially imaginative, nothing that a GM couldn't have easily come up with on their own. The only real advantage of those adventure hooks is that they're pre-written, so that you could crack the book to a random page of the appropriate section, drop a finger somewhere on the page, and have the book do your thinking for you.

some quickie maps,

Maps that are so 'quickie' they barely resemble the real world locations that they're supposed to represent. While I'm not expecting building drawings drafted by a licensed architect, I do expect the maps to at least be consistent with my and my players' expectations of how modern buildings work. If I have a layout of a typical office floor in a high rise building, there should be fire stairs somewhere on the map, and not just elevators. For a map of a store, or some other location where people will be working several hours straight, an employee washroom in the back would be a good idea. The maps from Sprawl Sites are so riddled with these types of flaws, they kill the overall utility of the book.

and all the other goodies in there,

The listing of contacts wasn't bad, and the essays in the back were worth reading. In fact, I ended up photocopying those two sections so I could carry them around to gaming sessions without them being tainted by the rest of the book.