 Echoes of the Crash, Some questions... |
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 Aug 21 2003, 10:20 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116  |
I was reading Echoes of the Crash by Ancient History, and I liked the idea of an essay like this. However, there are many things about this piece that are really unclear, and I would lilke to get some input from all of you, especially Ancient History, in order to clear up some of the vagueness, as I was thinking of writing a similar essay, but more focussed on the Crash of '29, than on all the things around it. 1) Did Lucien Cross really start out at Acquisition Technologies? Which canon piece supports this? 2) Did Lucien Cross really help out in the nano-second buyout? Which canon piece supports this? 3) "The CCC, which later became Die Shockwellenrieter, was also involved [in fighting the Crash Virus]." Who are the CCC? Is this a reference to the Chaos Computer Club? Is this also supported by canon material? 4) In which piece of canon material is Halberstam's connection to Dr. Hikita described? ...actually, to sum everything up; is there anyway to trace any of these "facts" to canon material? If so, then I can do my own research and write my own essay, more focussed, and more in-depth into each of the things Ancient touched upon. Thanks in advance. |
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Aug 21 2003, 10:26 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 17-August 03 From: The Waves. Care to Join Me? Member No.: 5,505 |
Okay, let's see if I can help.
Lucien Cross worked for Acquisition Companies with one David Gavilan who is revealed to be Damien Knight. This is in Blood in the Boardroom. I think stuff on the CCC is in Target: Matrix or the Matrix sourcebook. I'm not 100% sure of that though. |
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Aug 21 2003, 12:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
Thanks, Ronin. I'm blind, apparently, because at the end of Ancient's document there's a big list of source material.
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Aug 21 2003, 12:46 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,213 Joined: 10-March 02 From: Back from the abyss. Member No.: 2,316 |
I don't GM too often but I seem to remember a Dr. Halberstam, more accuratley, Halberstam's babies in Threats (the first one). I don't know much about it as I said I don't GM too often so I haven't read it out of courtsey to our usual GM. I f he is the one you are referring to, check Threats.
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Aug 21 2003, 02:42 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Well, I'm glad you found the source materials section. Please let me know if you have any more questions...and I'd like to see this essay.
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Aug 21 2003, 02:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
Don't worry, if there's anything I'll be plagarising, it will be the canon material. ;)
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Aug 21 2003, 02:47 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
No, I'm just interested in what ye'll say.
By-the-by, Halberstam shows up (as I recall) in: Virtual Realities 1.0->Threats->Corporate Download->Target Matrix For those who just read the top halves of my pages and ignore the source material list, you're usually missing out on my humorous side and all the spiffy little facts I put there because I don't know what else to do with them. This post has been edited by Ancient History: Aug 21 2003, 02:55 PM |
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Aug 24 2003, 05:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 |
Hey, you think the Remy in VR was the same Remy that got offed in Brainscan?
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Aug 24 2003, 05:22 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
No. Btw, it was "Renny" from VR 1.0.
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Sep 2 2003, 07:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
Hey Ancient, can I ask; how did you connect Halberstam to Hikita?
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Sep 2 2003, 08:33 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Lessee...VR1.0, p.120, lower section.
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Sep 2 2003, 11:40 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
I love reading those little source footnotes personally. That's how I found out about Ares's connection to the Roswell aliens :P
Back on topic: Everyything you need to know about the Crash of '29 appears in the Dragonheart Trilogy. Hey, AH...I recall some time ago you said that if you read the trilogy, you'd award a knowlege skill rank of 1 in Sixth World...when do I get mine? :P The Abstruse One |
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Sep 3 2003, 12:19 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
You received it as soon as you finished the last word on the last page.
Unfortunately, we're out of certificates. |
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Sep 3 2003, 07:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 714 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .nl Member No.: 116 |
That's not entirely true. I read through it again, right after I read Ancient's "Echos of the Crash" article, and there's a lot of stuff that's left up to speculation. Sure, Alice takes Ryan's word over Roxborough's, but who says that in that final moment where he's afraid of being killed he didn't actually tell the truth? :) |
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Sep 3 2003, 12:09 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Hence the reason I tried to stress other sources for the Crash virus.
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Sep 3 2003, 01:51 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
here's a thought: between AH and the DragonHeart Trio, we get the idea that the big D is partially responsible for the Crash b/c it was caused by shadow hacker ops between one of the Big D's thinktanks and Rox. What if the Big D planned it all along? If you look at what the (meta)human race got after all was said and done, it would well be worth the loss in lives to the Wyrm. This is on the assumption that He was preparing the world for the invasion of the Horrors.
[no cannon support on this, just wild speculation] |
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Sep 4 2003, 02:39 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Hey, don't blame me for Koke's work! I just call it as I see it!
Besides, I'm still in favor of the Gibson-esque "Aliens Broke the Matrix" theory. |
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