 Dodging Grenades?, Is there a dodge roll made for non-direct Grenade explosions? |
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 Aug 31 2009, 11:36 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 8-January 03 Member No.: 3,874  |
If you're not directly targeted by a grenade, but are within the blast radius, do you still make a dodge test?
Initially, we assumed that you didn't get to dodge grenade explosions, but on page 160 of the SR4a it says Attacker Using Area Attack Weapon: "Dodging explosions is not as easy as it seems in the movies. Apply a -2 modifier when trying to defend against weapons like grenades, rockets, or missiles with a blast effect." Does that mean you CAN dodge grenade blasts (specifically, airburst-link fired grenades)? If so, do you just roll your reaction (or full defense) with a threshold of the number of hits the grenade launcher person had? |
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Sep 1 2009, 01:02 AM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
Yes you can dodge the blast from a grenade. In this case the "dodge" means you are able to duck, dive or otherwise throw yourself behind some cover or otherwise avoid the brunt of the blast. Its best not to think to much about this, as that way lies only madness. Just say its an abstraction and leave it at that. If you want more realism, you might consider making your players automatically drop prone in such situations.
As an aside, I will say again (as I have many times before) I hate the word dodge as it is used in SR contexts. It just rubs me the wrong way. |
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Sep 1 2009, 01:07 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 8-January 03 Member No.: 3,874 |
Alright, so the guy fires the grenade, figures up his scatter, and also notes his successes so that folks can dodge/avoid whatever the blast. Do the grenade launcher's successes also raise the damage of the blast, or are those successes only for purposes of scatter/dodge?
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Sep 1 2009, 01:10 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (malichai @ Aug 31 2009, 07:07 PM)  Alright, so the guy fires the grenade, figures up his scatter, and also notes his successes so that folks can dodge/avoid whatever the blast. Do the grenade launcher's successes also raise the damage of the blast, or are those successes only for purposes of scatter/dodge? Only for Scatter/Dodge Purposes... Successes over the Scatter no longer add to damage... of course, if there is a chunky salsa effect, well then.... |
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Sep 1 2009, 01:15 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
QUOTE (malichai @ Aug 31 2009, 09:07 PM) Do the grenade launcher's successes also raise the damage of the blast, or are those successes only for purposes of scatter/dodge? Are you playing SR4 or SR4A? This is one of the changed rules. |
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Sep 1 2009, 01:28 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 8-January 03 Member No.: 3,874 |
SR4A
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Sep 1 2009, 01:47 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
QUOTE (malichai @ Aug 31 2009, 09:28 PM) SR4A SR4A is as Tymeaus describes above. |
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Sep 1 2009, 02:14 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,328 Joined: 2-April 07 From: The Center of the Universe Member No.: 11,360 |
If I read that right then if the dodge hits exceed the attack hits they take no damage. Otherwise they take damage as normal. Right?
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