 Ways to deal with mages within the rules |
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 Sep 6 2009, 11:04 PM
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Immortal Elf  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465  |
I'd deal with Mages the same way I'd deal with someone with a gun.
Very politely. |
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Sep 7 2009, 07:30 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 26-August 09 Member No.: 17,555 |
Not really orthodox, but could have Surge people with astral hazing to protect as well. Background count 4 is a hefty chunk of magic.
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Sep 7 2009, 10:33 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,009 Joined: 25-September 06 From: Paris, France Member No.: 9,466 |
Idea 9: Oh the delicious power. Mages need karma. A lot of it. It's great because it shows how much a mage crave power. The good news is that there are a lot of ways to get power, even without karma. The bad news is that they aren't... politically correct. Deals with spirits, blood magic ("Hey as long as the victim is willing or is going to die anyway, it's not like it's something bad!"), use of toxic domains. I like to tempt my players with such things: "There's a toxic background count here, but you've been living here for long enough and you're pretty sure you can actually shape that toxic mana. If you want to filter the mana anyway you'll have a -1 modifier. If you want to use it, you'll have a +1 modifier.", "The people here are panicked, the astral plane is full of their powerful emotions. There's so much power in there, and maybe you could harness it.".
Idea 10: No-one likes mages. This includes other runners. Sure, it's always nice when the mage stuns the guards, but when he rapes their mind or influence them, you can't help but wonder if he does that to you too. Remember when he asked if he could get a little more cash since he did the biggest part of the run? You wonder why you agreed so easily. Idea 11: Power abuse. Why wait in line when all it takes is a little spell to get in? Why buy her a bottle of champagne and spend the whole evening listening to her boring conversation when all it takes is a little spell to get in too? You can even alter her memory so that she remembers it as her best night ever. Idea 12: Everyone is overpowered anyway. Seriously. Mages are good and can do a lot of very powerful things, but so can a street samurai, a hacker or a face. Sure, it's hard to stop a force 8 spirit. But no more than a essence 0.01 Troll streetsamurai. Sure, a mage can read minds and have people do whatever he wants. But so can a good face with the good tools. And when a mage can sneak inside a place without anyone noticing him, a hacker can get inside with people around him actually helping him. |
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Sep 7 2009, 10:43 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,894 Joined: 11-May 09 Member No.: 17,166 |
QUOTE (Blade @ Sep 7 2009, 05:33 AM)  Idea 9: Oh the delicious power. Mages need karma. A lot of it. It's great because it shows how much a mage crave power. The good news is that there are a lot of ways to get power, even without karma. The bad news is that they aren't... politically correct. Deals with spirits, blood magic ("Hey as long as the victim is willing or is going to die anyway, it's not like it's something bad!"), use of toxic domains. I like to tempt my players with such things: "There's a toxic background count here, but you've been living here for long enough and you're pretty sure you can actually shape that toxic mana. If you want to filter the mana anyway you'll have a -1 modifier. If you want to use it, you'll have a +1 modifier.", "The people here are panicked, the astral plane is full of their powerful emotions. There's so much power in there, and maybe you could harness it.". "Your hate has made you powerful. Now fulfill your destiny and take your father's place at my side!" |
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Sep 7 2009, 01:20 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Sep 7 2009, 06:43 PM) "Your hate has made you powerful. Now fulfill your destiny and take your father's place at my side!" Sorry, if I want to play Star Wars, I'd go play Star Wars where evil is evil and good is good. |
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Sep 7 2009, 01:57 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,894 Joined: 11-May 09 Member No.: 17,166 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Sep 7 2009, 08:20 AM) Sorry, if I want to play Star Wars, I'd go play Star Wars where evil is evil and good is good. Geez, lighten up just a hair, huh? It was supposed to be a joke, because the quoted text sounded so much like "welcome to the Dark Side; Here's your cookie". |
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Sep 7 2009, 03:22 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm... Cookie!
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Sep 8 2009, 12:20 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (CanRay @ Sep 7 2009, 08:22 AM) Mmmmmmmmmmmmm... Cookie! Cookies Indeed....... |
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Sep 8 2009, 01:37 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 14,358 Joined: 2-December 07 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Member No.: 14,465 |
There's Evil in Shadowrun. Insect Spirits, Toxic Spirits, Some Dragons, and their servants. And the "Horrors" that are still on their way, and possibly invading the Matrix this time as well...
Now, where's the Good? Anywhere? Nope. The closest thing we had was Dunkie, and even he was playing his own game for his own profit. And Captain Chaos, but that was more due to his view of "Information Should Be Free" than anything else. But look at what happened to them. Nope, the only Good you can find in Shadowrun is Good Beer, and that's 100 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) a can! |
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Sep 8 2009, 02:28 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
QUOTE (Kerenshara @ Sep 7 2009, 09:57 PM) Geez, lighten up just a hair, huh? It was supposed to be a joke, because the quoted text sounded so much like "welcome to the Dark Side; Here's your cookie". Dark chocolate cookies, perhaps? Humor, the internet conveys it not. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Sep 8 2009, 02:34 AM
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Prime Runner Ascendant Group: Members Posts: 17,568 Joined: 26-March 09 From: Aurora, Colorado Member No.: 17,022 |
QUOTE (toturi @ Sep 7 2009, 07:28 PM) Dark chocolate cookies, perhaps? Bad Toturi, Very Bad! Keep the Faith |
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