Brackhaven, Who is this guy? Options

[Degausser]

Okay, so I don't have every shadowrun book ever, so I gotta ask . . . who is this Brackhaven guy?

I mean, I think he was running for mayor (or whatever) of Seattle, and a lot of people hated him, but what is his schtick and why does everyone hate him. Also, in the SR cannon, does something happen to him? I am planning on running a game set in 2071, so right after the technomancer scare and right before the big magic drug thing (the one that lets norms astrally perceive.) What is the political climate at that time?

[Stingray]

Okay, so I don't have every shadowrun book ever, so I gotta ask . . . who is this Brackhaven guy?

I mean, I think he was running for mayor (or whatever) of Seattle, and a lot of people hated him, but what is his schtick and why does everyone hate him. Also, in the SR cannon, does something happen to him? I am planning on running a game set in 2071, so right after the technomancer scare and right before the big magic drug thing (the one that lets norms astrally perceive.) What is the political climate at that time?

Brackhaven: current mayor of Seattle, suspected member/leader Humanis Policlub,one of his
sayings were "trolls and orks are only good at Combat Biking" racist at its worst,
Adopted by leader of Humanis Policlub's "cilvilized" front, have not able to stop Mayan Slasher
(notarious serial killer), have not done anything to improve human/metahuman relations..

[Degausser]

Okay, what am I, as a GM, supposed to do with that? I mean, IS he a member/leader of humanis? Is he just a dick? And how did he even get elected in one of the most open-minded and meta-diverse cities in the UCAS?

[Stingray]

Okay, what am I, as a GM, supposed to do with that? I mean, IS he a member/leader of humanis? Is he just a dick? And how did he even get elected in one of the most open-minded and meta-diverse cities in the UCAS?

a SUSPECTED member/leader, yes he is a ***, in the city of Seattle,huge amount of occupants
are humans and his campaign were fear-mongering of its worse.. aka.. Look!! Metahumans are attacking pure humans!!!
(lot of non-humans have no Sin,no rights to vote..)

[W@geMage]

Okay, what am I, as a GM, supposed to do with that? I mean, IS he a member/leader of humanis? Is he just a dick? And how did he even get elected in one of the most open-minded and meta-diverse cities in the UCAS?

Because he is a resourceful and successful businessman with contacts in the right place.
He plays up the fear and insecurity and points to all minority groups like mages, technomancers, metahumans, etc ... as the cause

Think about how stuff like the Patriot Act ever got voted. Scared voters are easily swayed.

More to the point, he would never personally involve himself with Humanis. He is way too high profile for that.
He has contacts and family members (an uncle I think) who do the real stuff.

[Kumo]

He's a first-rate politician. Even if he isn't HP member (and most shadow folk bet he is), he is close with them. Very powerful man: heir of influential family, mayor of Seattle, owner of major corporation -Brackhaven Investments. He's involved in politics since 40's and he's REALLY good in it - means big public support.
He ran for President of the UCAS in 2057 and finished second; Dunkelzahn won only by a small margin.

[Cardul]

Brackhaven is the Devil.

In fact, there is a phrase he has used concerning the Ork Underground, saying that
he is going to be addressing the "Underground Problem." Just sayin...

[Silverback]

Hi all,

in SR "Brackhaven" is a reaccuring family name. In the NAN I adventure set in 2050 or 51, the runners are hired by Kenneth Brackhaven, the uncle of mayor B.. This uncle has been one of the head honchos of Humanis in Seattle.
His nephew could not directly be proven to be Humanis, but he seems to be close.
In the campaign based around the 2057 elections, (Super Tuesday) an adventure also features a Brackhaven, this time the nephew. But I really can't remember what this adventure was all about.

[W@geMage]

Hi all,

in SR "Brackhaven" is a reaccuring family name. In the NAN I adventure set in 2050 or 51, the runners are hired by Kenneth Brackhaven, the uncle of mayor B.. This uncle has been one of the head honchos of Humanis in Seattle.
His nephew could not directly be proven to be Humanis, but he seems to be close.
In the campaign based around the 2057 elections, (Super Tuesday) an adventure also features a Brackhaven, this time the nephew. But I really can't remember what this adventure was all about.

The run was about Brackhaven actually being adopted. The real Brackhaven boy goblinized and his family killed him for it. It was a really interesting twist during Super Tuesday.

[Kumo]

The run was about Brackhaven actually being adopted. The real Brackhaven boy goblinized and his family killed him for it. It was a really interesting twist during Super Tuesday.

And despite these news in every media feed during election, Brackhaven nearly won! Many people believe his (and Humanis') PR. Did you see this?

[betterwatchit]

And the last I heard, Brackhaven Investments is a AA-rated corp. Big enough to be extraterritorial.

[W@geMage]

And despite these news in every media feed during election, Brackhaven nearly won! Many people believe his (and Humanis') PR. Did you see this?

Even better.
Even if the runners made all that info public, Brackhaven and his PR-machine would spin it so HE came out of it as the victim, and his ratings actually improved. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wobble.gif)

[Kumo]

Runner Havens, p. 67:

Brackhaven’s presidential bid turned into a
debacle when the media uncovered that Brackhaven was not the man he
believed to be. Kenneth Brackhaven was in fact an orphan, adopted and
raised as the dead Brackhaven scion. Damaging as the revelation was, an
emotional public statement reconciled Brackhaven with public opinion and
he finished second after President Dunkelzahn in the polls.

[Stormdrake]

just an FYI but the Seatle 2072 is refering to Brackhaven as Govenor of Seattle (pg. 37), not Mayor. Thought it was a bit strange but there you go.

[Silverback]

And since Kenneth was the presidential candidate, what was the name of his uncle? I think something with "C" or "K". Carl, perhaps?

[Ravor]

Well something to remember is that unlike in real life, most of the racist drivel is actually true about Trogs, they have fragging litters, can never be as intelligent and learned as a human no matter how long they stay in school or how many books they read. Not to mention that their overall shorter lifespan limits their possible experience.

And please, don't give me the line about how their lifestyle is why trogs don't live as long as humans, that is probably part of the issue, but remember that the SINless aren't people and as such aren't included in such figures so even given simliar lifestyles there is still a difference...

[Digital Heroin]

just an FYI but the Seatle 2072 is refering to Brackhaven as Govenor of Seattle (pg. 37), not Mayor. Thought it was a bit strange but there you go.

Seattle is essentially a city-state/colony to the UCAS the term Governor would apply. I reckon there are several Mayors in Seattle as well, for the recognized districts.

[Bugfoxmaster]

Well something to remember is that unlike in real life, most of the racist drivel is actually true about Trogs, they have fragging litters, can never be as intelligent and learned as a human no matter how long they stay in school or how many books they read. Not to mention that their overall shorter lifespan limits their possible experience.

And please, don't give me the line about how their lifestyle is why trogs don't live as long as humans, that is probably part of the issue, but remember that the SINless aren't people and as such aren't included in such figures so even given simliar lifestyles there is still a difference...

You're killin' me. You're fucking KILLING me. Are you JOKING?!
Perhaps an ork (I assume this is who you mean when you say trog - there's a term for it, being 'Ork' or 'Troll'- this is sort of like using 'coolie' or the 'n-word' as the normal term - not fucking done) or troll can't have as high a logic as a human, but learned? That's a moronic statement - anyone can be as learned as anyone else - it's up to them to apply the knowledge - like a legacy student and a scholarship student both in Harvard - one (the scholarship one) is more intelligent, but BOTH will be learned upon their graduation... Their shorter lifespan might limit their OVERALL experience, but how many people do their important shit between agets 60 and 86, besides politicians? And besides, Orks and Trolls mature faster, and thus can START gaining true experience in the adult world much sooner. So there goes that. And I assume you meant 'the SINless aren't COUNTED', not that they're not PEOPLE, because the latter would make me want to punch something hard - that's edging close to somewhere you don't want to go. There is no way of knowing the absolute limit of an ork life when they DO have sufficient medical care and a healthy lifestyle, just like humans or any other metatype. And litters are stupid. If whoever wrote that knew anything about demographic science, they'd have realized that there'd be several billion orks around now. There are other places where this is discussed - don't use litters as an argument (you could, I suppose, it's a legitimate concern...)
The racist drivel is NOT true. Additionally, since elves dwarves can live longer and get 'more experience' than humans, along with their other advantages, should we say humans are a useless, outdated heap of garbage? No.
Overall, it may be a simple tabletop RPG, but let's not agree with, follow, or otherwise enable racism and/or class conflict, please.
Finally, htis post was about Brackhaven, not racist bullshit in general.

[BlueMax]

Brackhaven is a hero.

Instead of countless talk about bright futures, Brackhaven moves to secure Seattle and its neighborhoods from rampant crime and violence. A hard man for the hard choices of our times.

Those who wish the violence and oppression to continue will distract you with false claims. Judge the man based on his leadership record, or be controlled.


The White Dove

[Tyro]

Brackhaven is a hero.

Instead of countless talk about bright futures, Brackhaven moves to secure Seattle and its neighborhoods from rampant crime and violence. A hard man for the hard choices of our times.

Those who wish the violence and oppression to continue will distract you with false claims. Judge the man based on his leadership record, or be controlled.


The White Dove

You scare me.

[Degausser]

Oookaaaay. I'm gonna nip this in the bud before it gets out of hand. Thanks all for the info, now I have a much better handle on what's going on. Also, double thanks to the guy who posted the Humanis speech, that kinda hit it home for me. Now I know what I should do about Brackhaven and how he can tie into the campaign (even have a few run ideas based around him now.)

As for the racism arguement with orks and trolls, well, here are my two cents.

A troll and Orc do not suffer penalties to their Logic, they simply have lower caps. While this may seem like a legitimate claim for racism (and I guess it is, in some ways) the median logic score is still the same. It is not like DnD where they suffer penalties to mental attributes. Instead it simply means that there are no child prodigy trolls or orks out there. What is the logic of most humans? 3. What is the logic of most Trolls? 3. The only thing is there are no trolls with 6 logic running around "tipping the scales" so that their average is higher. Still doesn't mean you can't have a troll scientist, you just have to work a bit harder at it. I've made a troll with 7 logic before, and hey, even the sample hacker in the book is an ork, and you can't tell me that he's stupid!

[Warlordtheft]

I vote for anarchy...how about everyone else. Oh...waita minute we had anarchy and somebody got too strong.

Ok communism, nah, that didn't work. What's the quote for your wage slave. Oh yeah, "What's my motivation?"

How about democracy---kinda of like Anarchy with out the constant bloodshed. True, the majority may squish the minority. But then again, when hasn't a minority been squished.

I won't even mention monarchies (how...quiant) or fascism (always the fav of the meglomaniac).

THat being said, are they sure the vote wasn't rigged? I mean 60% of seattle was human, so it would almost take almost 85% of the human vote to get him elected (if it needs 50% of the vote).
I don't think the metas would vote for him, and 85% for one candidate amongst the humans (a diverse group) seems to be impossible.

[Bugfoxmaster]

You scare me.

Scares me too... Then again, it captures the Humanis idea pretty damn well.
at: Warlordtheft
You have a point - maybe the electon having been rigged will come up in a future book or module? Or maybe it could be something I could convince my GM to slot into the plot... hmm...

[ravensoracle]

I vote for anarchy...how about everyone else. Oh...waita minute we had anarchy and somebody got too strong.

Ok communism, nah, that didn't work. What's the quote for your wage slave. Oh yeah, "What's my motivation?"

How about democracy---kinda of like Anarchy with out the constant bloodshed. True, the majority may squish the minority. But then again, when hasn't a minority been squished.

I won't even mention monarchies (how...quiant) or fascism (always the fav of the meglomaniac).

THat being said, are they sure the vote wasn't rigged? I mean 60% of seattle was human, so it would almost take almost 85% of the human vote to get him elected (if it needs 50% of the vote).
I don't think the metas would vote for him, and 85% for one candidate amongst the humans (a diverse group) seems to be impossible.

Wouldn't a run for proof of this make a great story. I mean would you really want this to get out along with other information. I caould see anarchy erupt/ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/vegm.gif)

[Degausser]

THat being said, are they sure the vote wasn't rigged? I mean 60% of seattle was human, so it would almost take almost 85% of the human vote to get him elected (if it needs 50% of the vote).
I don't think the metas would vote for him, and 85% for one candidate amongst the humans (a diverse group) seems to be impossible.

Remember, a fair amount of orks live below the poverty line, as do trolls, so just because 60% of seattle is human, doesn't mean 60% of Seattle VOTERS are human . . . That being said . . .

Notice how Brackhaven channels most of his hate and aggression towards orks and trolls? He might caputre some of the Elf and Dwarf votes, especially among the Ancients and their kin, because of their distrust of Trolls and orks in general. I mean, some of those elves can be just as racist as Humanis, and in lieu of an elf canidate, they would back whoever hates the trolls as much as they do.

Totally going to have a run where people discover that the skeleton in the closet, that the Brackhavens killed their own goblin child, comes out, and then deal with a bunch of fallout from that. Great runs to be had by all.