 The Shadowrun Presidency!, Time to cast your vote, chummers! |
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 Feb 1 2004, 02:51 AM
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Manus Celer Dei  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802  |
Century Ferret is cute.
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Feb 1 2004, 02:52 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Deus is far cuter.
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Feb 1 2004, 02:54 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That goes without saying.
~J |
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Feb 1 2004, 03:11 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
Century Ferret > All.
And...Thank you. :D |
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Feb 1 2004, 03:30 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
We won in Afghanistan? :eek:
Might be a good idea to let those soldiers still fighting and dying over there in on that little tidbit. |
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Feb 1 2004, 03:43 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
...*merciless death to the thread*
Bah...I give up...Maybe this thread was a bad idea... |
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Feb 1 2004, 04:06 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
It wasn't a bad idea! Look! Deus is only one vote behind right now!
GO DEUS!!! ~J |
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Feb 1 2004, 04:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
Dr Komuso:
We did NOT win in Somalia. We got our a$$es handed to us by a bunch of street thugs. Our stated objective was to capture Mohammed Farah Aidid, and we FAILED to do so because then-President Clinton didn't authorize the use of enough troops or equipment to get the job done properly. Same problem in Kosovo. We never should have sent troops there, either. It wasn't any of our business. But because then-President Clinton was trying to make points with his friends at the U.N., he sent American troops into a situation they couldn't possibly win. I'm not saying that the war with Iraq was entirely justifiable. However, we went there with at least 2 objectives in mind. The first was the removal of Saddam Hussein's government and the Ba'ath party from power, and the second was the restoration of a normal way of life for the average Iraqi. We have accomplished the first objective, but the second remains elusive. And, if we abandon Iraq now, it will be a very short time before some of Hussein's former cronies (the ones who haven't been captured or killed), or others like them, take over the country. --Foreigner |
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Feb 1 2004, 04:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
@ Kagetenshi: Ah, true. Just pray he doesn't get ticked off at anything. Is it a good idea to piss off an AI running three nuke reactors? ;)
@ Foreigner: Ah, there...Nice and civilized again. Continue, chummers. |
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Feb 1 2004, 05:11 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
No we didn't. The war was justified on the principle of preemptive self-defense, that Iraq was a significant and immediate threat to the safety and security of the United States and/or its citizens. One stated goal, unachieved and increasingly appearing to be unachievable due to the nonexistance of the conditions claimed as a "threat". How is this relevant to the thread? Because storming the Arcology was done with much the same justification, only Deus really did have the drones and reactors. Deus, however, is cool. ~J |
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Feb 1 2004, 05:29 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 14-April 03 Member No.: 4,450 |
Deus is awesome. Still, I vote Darke. After all, the devil you know, and all that.
Plus it'd be a cool Jason Wynn style return to power from apparent death :) Side Note: Freedoms are what make this country great. I'm free to team up with all my bleeding heart liberal buddies and bitch all day about what an evil SOB I think Bush and his cronies are, and those who disagree with us are free to sit around and bitch all day about how we're a bunch of bleeding heart liberals who wouldn't know a decent days work if it bit us in the ass. Agree or not, we all get to say whatever we want, and that's what's important.. America is wonderful :D I think Deus would have loftier goals than simply the presidency of the UCAS. Perhaps the UN (What's left of it), the NAN, or.... gasp.... the Corporate Court. Deus in control of ZO..... resistance is futile. :cyber: F'in A, finally found an excuse to use the cyber smiley. |
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Feb 1 2004, 05:34 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Together we will administrate the world.
~J |
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Feb 1 2004, 05:38 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 14-April 03 Member No.: 4,450 |
And just try bringing him up on charges of monopoly.
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Feb 1 2004, 05:57 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
...Deus vs. Bill Gates...
...*flees* |
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Feb 1 2004, 06:05 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Deus would have difficulty at first due to being unable to run on horribly-buggy software. Eventually he'd learn to install some version of Linux and reboot systems before invading, making everything much easier.
~J |
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Feb 1 2004, 06:10 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 973 Joined: 3-October 03 Member No.: 5,677 |
...And I am suddenly reminded of my Agent Smith vs. Deus thread. :dead: Yay! I'm a complete looney at last!
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Feb 1 2004, 02:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 26-December 03 Member No.: 5,935 |
Dues as president would be an awful idea. Once he's in and running on EVERY GOVERNMENT COMPUTER do you really think there would be any way to have a fair election, or in any way remove him from office?
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Feb 1 2004, 05:49 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Once Deus is president, you no longer need elections.
~J |
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Feb 1 2004, 06:20 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
There you happy now? i voted. Deus is winning.
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Feb 1 2004, 07:01 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Yay!
~J |
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Feb 1 2004, 11:36 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
I beg your pardon but ... who's Century Ferret?
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Feb 2 2004, 12:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
Dr Komuso:
I agree on one point. You're correct about the freedoms part. I believe that it was Voltaire who said, "I disagree with WHAT you say, but I will DEFEND UNTO DEATH your RIGHT to say it!" [Emphasis mine.] Kagetenshi: With all due respect, just because we haven't found the Weapons of Mass Distruction doesn't mean that they either don't exist now, or never existed in the first place. Don't forget, Saddam and Co. had almost 5 years to hide their stash of forbidden weapons after then-President Clinton didn't do anything more than lodge a complaint with the United Nations following the expulsion from Iraq (in 1998) of all of the U.N. inspectors whose very presence they had agreed to as a condition of the cease-fire which ended the 1991 Gulf War, allegedly (according to the Iraqis, anyway) because they were all C.I.A. agents. Said cease-fire also gave any of the so-called "Coalition" nations involved in the War--not just the United States, but also Great Britain, France, Kuwait, Syria, and Saudi Arabia, among others-- the right to use MILITARY FORCE to ensure Iraqi compliance with the provisions of the cease-fire agreement, in the event that other forms of coercion were unsuccessful. Under the provisions of the 1991 cease-fire, President Clinton had the authority, if not the obligation, to use military force to ensure the safe return of the U.N. inspectors to Iraq, and also to ensure that they were allowed unrestricted access to all suspected weapons sites--yet, as we all know, he chose not to do so, leaving yet another mess for his successor to clean up. --Foreigner |
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Feb 2 2004, 01:10 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
The first awakened beasties. Ferrets, yet more than ferrets. |
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Feb 2 2004, 01:27 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,012 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
The Gulf War demonstrated that the international community was not going to brook aggression by Iraq. Between that and the Clinton-era bombing of anything vaguely approaching infrastructure in Iraq (one of the various things Clinton did that I don't agree with), even if Iraq had N/B/C weapons filling the country hip-deep, they still would not have been a threat to the US. They didn't, and it would have made no sense for them to have had any. Since they could not have used them against their neighbors (Gulf War, as previously mentioned, let them know that their current borders would not be growing) and could not use them within their borders (the aforementioned cease-fire provisions, doing so would alert the world to their presence and be tantamount to suicide). In other words, they had NO USE for these weapons, and their existence could only serve as a liability. That and the inspectors who got kicked out were all but conclusively demonstrated to have been conducting espionage... ~J |
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Feb 2 2004, 02:19 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 14-April 03 Member No.: 4,450 |
With Deus in office, you don't even need a constituency. :eek:
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