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post Oct 21 2009, 02:39 PM
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Dear all

Im considering a number of ways to make spirit summoning more unpredictable, but i want to hear your thoughts on it first before introducing it. Also want to hear if anyone has any other suggestions. However i would like to keep this strictly within the rulechanges, although i do not critisize or doubt that introducing (more) spirit RP and the like can be effective in balancing some things out, I would like to keep this out of the discussion. Alhtough i think ill be using the spirit aspect with concealment (eg. air element will conceal with a cloud of air for instance).

So ill start with the simplest "fix" ive come up with yet:

Increase the drain from x2 to x3
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- darune   Summoning spirits   Oct 21 2009, 02:39 PM
- - Thanee   That would be quite harsh for Binding, though. I ...   Oct 21 2009, 02:44 PM
- - darune   I haven't considered binding yet.   Oct 21 2009, 02:54 PM
- - Thanee   You should, though. Those two go hand-in-hand. By...   Oct 21 2009, 03:10 PM
- - Semerkhet   A suggestion was made in another topic that all sp...   Oct 21 2009, 03:32 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Semerkhet @ Oct 21 2009, 08:32 AM)...   Oct 21 2009, 08:58 PM
- - pbangarth   I've found in practice that the belief people ...   Oct 21 2009, 03:36 PM
- - Ravor   Aye, personally I'd just figure that it isn...   Oct 21 2009, 04:06 PM
- - Thanee   If they all use Edge to resist, you just raised Dr...   Oct 21 2009, 04:55 PM
- - Ravor   Not really, at best its twice the normal drain, no...   Oct 21 2009, 05:01 PM
|- - Thanee   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 21 2009, 07:01 PM) Not...   Oct 21 2009, 06:21 PM
- - darune   Do spirits even have edge ? If they do i would def...   Oct 21 2009, 05:11 PM
- - Ravor   Yes, equal to their ( Force ), I hadn't though...   Oct 21 2009, 05:13 PM
- - darune   Even reroll is not like doubling the hits however ...   Oct 21 2009, 05:20 PM
- - Semerkhet   I have my team statistician working on a probabili...   Oct 21 2009, 05:29 PM
- - Apathy   Is the issue that you want summoning to be more un...   Oct 21 2009, 05:44 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (Apathy @ Oct 21 2009, 12:44 PM) Is...   Oct 22 2009, 05:12 PM
- - pbangarth   Yes, Apathy has a point there. darune, why do you...   Oct 21 2009, 06:19 PM
- - Ravor   Aye, I realized what you were talking about shortl...   Oct 21 2009, 07:54 PM
- - Thanee   Agreed. More variance is good in that case. Bye T...   Oct 21 2009, 08:26 PM
- - Apathy   I'm inclined to say Spirits only use edge to r...   Oct 21 2009, 09:11 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Apathy @ Oct 21 2009, 02:11 PM) I...   Oct 21 2009, 09:12 PM
- - TheOOB   Spirits are allready pretty random, I was nearly t...   Oct 22 2009, 03:15 AM
- - darune   My biggest concern is that you can summon a force ...   Oct 22 2009, 09:18 AM
- - Thanee   The spirit can only use spells that you know yours...   Oct 22 2009, 09:28 AM
- - darune   Ok, that makes sense. However the mage could, for...   Oct 22 2009, 10:18 AM
|- - Thanee   QUOTE (darune @ Oct 22 2009, 12:18 PM) Ho...   Oct 22 2009, 10:33 AM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Thanee @ Oct 22 2009, 04:33 AM) Th...   Oct 22 2009, 02:07 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   The easiest route to have a spirit sustain a spell...   Oct 22 2009, 02:27 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Oct 22 2009, 07:27 A...   Oct 22 2009, 02:45 PM
- - Orcus Blackweather   In my current game, I play a Technomancer. We hav...   Oct 22 2009, 02:44 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Actually it's one per 3 Force points and one C...   Oct 22 2009, 02:50 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Oct 22 2009, 07:50 A...   Oct 22 2009, 03:00 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 22 2009, 05...   Oct 22 2009, 03:23 PM
- - pbangarth   Many years ago I GMed a group of guys who saw them...   Oct 22 2009, 05:47 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 22 2009, 12:47 PM)...   Oct 22 2009, 05:56 PM
|- - pbangarth   QUOTE (Semerkhet @ Oct 22 2009, 01:56 PM)...   Oct 22 2009, 06:16 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 22 2009, 01:16 PM)...   Oct 22 2009, 06:25 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   For all Spirits, remove the Edge attribute and rep...   Oct 22 2009, 05:58 PM
- - pbangarth   Yes, I agree Summoning tends to happen among frien...   Oct 22 2009, 06:28 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Please note it is not a Visual or Audio Perception...   Oct 22 2009, 06:31 PM
- - pbangarth   What about the 'shamanic mask'?   Oct 22 2009, 06:32 PM
|- - Semerkhet   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 22 2009, 01:32 PM)...   Oct 22 2009, 06:40 PM
- - Dakka Dakka   Is the summoning visible on the physical plane, if...   Oct 22 2009, 06:37 PM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Oct 22 2009, 12:37 P...   Oct 22 2009, 06:42 PM
|- - Dakka Dakka   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 22 2009, 08:42...   Oct 22 2009, 06:59 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 22 2009, 11:42...   Oct 22 2009, 08:02 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   That is a visual effect, but still mana-based; vis...   Oct 22 2009, 06:38 PM
- - Screaming Eagle   The build in randomness of the number of hits high...   Oct 22 2009, 06:45 PM
- - pbangarth   There was a HUGE argument about burning EDG by NPC...   Oct 22 2009, 07:00 PM
|- - Screaming Eagle   QUOTE (pbangarth @ Oct 22 2009, 03:00 PM)...   Oct 22 2009, 07:34 PM
- - Ravor   Of course that only applies if the DM forgets that...   Oct 22 2009, 07:19 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Dakka Dakka @ Oct 22 2009, 12:59 P...   Oct 22 2009, 10:36 PM
|- - Apathy   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 22 2009, 05:36...   Oct 22 2009, 10:48 PM
- - Muspellsheimr   Consider modern day. Choose something that 'e...   Oct 22 2009, 10:53 PM
|- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Muspellsheimr @ Oct 22 2009, 03:53...   Oct 23 2009, 01:20 AM
|- - Muspellsheimr   QUOTE (Tymeaus Jalynsfein @ Oct 22 2009, 06...   Oct 23 2009, 05:22 AM
- - pbangarth   While it may be contentious whether ordinary citiz...   Oct 22 2009, 11:59 PM
- - Ravor   Personally I figure that in a world where people k...   Oct 23 2009, 03:54 AM
- - Ravor   True but if I remember correctly, Joe Blow might n...   Oct 23 2009, 05:29 AM
- - Tymeaus Jalynsfein   QUOTE (Ravor @ Oct 22 2009, 11:29 PM) Tru...   Oct 23 2009, 07:21 PM


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