Do Internal Suppressor modifications need to be replaced? Options

[kzt]

Well, OK, I'll admit it's unreasonable to expect that they have some idea what the word velocity means. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Well, OK, I'll admit it's unreasonable to expect that they have some idea what the word velocity means. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohplease.gif)

Some concepts are indeed difficult...

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[Chrome Tiger]

Some of the newer SOPMOD rated M4 silencers have a lifespan of around 30,000 rounds. Even these need replacing/repacking at the end of their lifespan.

[Dakka Dakka]

Just to get back to the rules aspect of the initial question and the lack of the developers' knowledge of firearms or suppressors, the accessory sound suppressor does not require replacement if the weapon is fired in semi automatic mode. Only BF an FA count towards the 300 rounds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

At my table suppressors do not have to be exchanged - too much bookkeeping. They may be rendered unusable on a critical glitch though.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Just to get back to the rules aspect of the initial question and the lack of the developers' knowledge of firearms or suppressors, the accessory sound suppressor does not require replacement if the weapon is fired in semi automatic mode. Only BF an FA count towards the 300 rounds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/silly.gif)

At my table suppressors do not have to be exchanged - too much bookkeeping. They may be rendered unusable on a critical glitch though.

Simple and Elegant...

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[Orcus Blackweath...]

I think that trying to keep track of wear and tear is a bit silly. Obviously, it can be done if you feel that it in some way enhances your game, but I would prefer a more reasoned approach, something like you pay 10% value of any weapons used on a regular basis, such as when you pay monthly lifestyle, or you could decide that at a certain level of security this is included automatically. I have a fair knowledge of firearms, in real life I do some hand loading, and maintain my own handguns. It is really not that expensive to maintain a handgun, but I have never been in combat, or tried shooting massive amounts of ammo through a weapon (ie. fully auto weapons), so I can't say that I know first hand of the wear and tear that can build up.

[Ravor]

I have to agree with Dakka Dakka and Tymeaus Jalynsfein with the possible exception of having the supressors foul up on a normal glitch from time to time, I figure that crit glitches should be more dangerous than merely having to spend 300 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) for replacement costs.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I think that trying to keep track of wear and tear is a bit silly. Obviously, it can be done if you feel that it in some way enhances your game, but I would prefer a more reasoned approach, something like you pay 10% value of any weapons used on a regular basis, such as when you pay monthly lifestyle, or you could decide that at a certain level of security this is included automatically. I have a fair knowledge of firearms, in real life I do some hand loading, and maintain my own handguns. It is really not that expensive to maintain a handgun, but I have never been in combat, or tried shooting massive amounts of ammo through a weapon (ie. fully auto weapons), so I can't say that I know first hand of the wear and tear that can build up.

Wear and tear builds up if you do not maintain your equipment, and over the life off a firearm, if you are not careful you can allow irrreperable damage to occur... but honestly, lifestyle should conver almost all of your incidentals such as routine maintenance...

Of course, replacements come out of your wallet, but what else is new...

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[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

I have to agree with Dakka Dakka and Tymeaus Jalynsfein with the possible exception of having the supressors foul up on a normal glitch from time to time, I figure that crit glitches should be more dangerous than merely having to spend 300 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nuyen.gif) for replacement costs.

Honestly, I see a crit glitch with firearms being somewhat dangerous... in the realm of having the weapon blow up in your hand...
Had that happen twice in my life... once when an undercharged bullet lodged ahead of a fully live round in Burst Fire... quite spectacular indeed... the other time due to faulty material in the metal casing of a hunting rifle, it split the casing completely down the side of the rifle... in both instances, I was very glad that I am nearsighted, as my glasses absorbed the majority of the blowback shrapnel... Critical Glitches can and should be somewhat spectacular in my opinion...

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[kzt]

Wear and tear builds up if you do not maintain your equipment, and over the life off a firearm, if you are not careful you can allow irrreperable damage to occur... but honestly, lifestyle should conver almost all of your incidentals such as routine maintenance...

All firearms wear out. Things like springs eventually break and will require someone who knows what they are doing to take the weapon apart and replace parts. I've seen people have them unrepairable fail in classes due to use, though it typically takes a lot of shooting for a quality firearm, as in many tens of thousands of rounds, before the receiver fails.

But more commonly what kills a firearm is doing something stupid, or just being unlucky.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

All firearms wear out. Things like springs eventually break and will require someone who knows what they are doing to take the weapon apart and replace parts. I've seen people have them unrepairable fail in classes due to use, though it typically takes a lot of shooting for a quality firearm, as in many tens of thousands of rounds, before the receiver fails.

But more commonly what kills a firearm is doing something stupid, or just being unlucky.

They do indeed... no doubt about it, but with proper care and maintenance you can have a firearm that lasts for generations... I have am Argentine Mauser from the Late 1800's (1874 to be exact) that is still in good firing condition, and it is well over 130 years old...

Maintenance is always required to maintain any mechanical device in top order, and I have several weapons that I have put tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of rounds through in my life...

And yes, the Hunting Rifle I had was a quality weapon, but apparently there was a minor flaw that escaped the quality controls of the company, and after several years, and several thousand rounds, the receiver exploded when I was sighting it in for the coming hunting season (using standard Production Ammunition no less)...

What a way to ruin your Hunting season, let me tell you...

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[Ravor]

Aye, I still use my old .22 rifle that probably dates back to the 1920s on a semi-regular basis to go "plinking" with. Not sure exactly how old it is, but it predates serial numbers.

[Tachi]

Honestly, I see a crit glitch with firearms being somewhat dangerous... in the realm of having the weapon blow up in your hand...
Had that happen twice in my life... once when an undercharged bullet lodged ahead of a fully live round in Burst Fire... quite spectacular indeed... the other time due to faulty material in the metal casing of a hunting rifle, it split the casing completely down the side of the rifle... in both instances, I was very glad that I am nearsighted, as my glasses absorbed the majority of the blowback shrapnel... Critical Glitches can and should be somewhat spectacular in my opinion...

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Indeed, that's what we gunsmiths refer to as "violent disassembly", happened to me once when firing someone else's .357 that they had been putting +P+ ammo through and didn't tell me. Last time he'd fired it he cracked the cylinder, I put 3 full cylinder loads through it, and it popped during the fourth. Like you I was lucky to be near-sighted, but I've got a little gray spot on my cheek bone where there is still a piece of shrapnel in my face.

I've got an Enfield MkIV .303 that was in god awful shape when I paid 100 bucks for it. I cleaned it up (muttering imprecations and praying to the gunsmith's god for "someone" to have an unfortunately lethal negligent discharge while I scrubbed rust), steamed the wood and replaced the (missing) original WW2 sniper scope with a modern upgrade. It'd had fired tens of thousands of rounds in and after WW2, and after a little TLC, it once again performs like a champ.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Indeed, that's what we gunsmiths refer to as "violent disassembly", happened to me once when firing someone else's .357 that they had been putting +P+ ammo through and didn't tell me. Last time he'd fired it he cracked the cylinder, I put 3 full cylinder loads through it, and it popped during the fourth. Like you I was lucky to be near-sighted, but I've got a little gray spot on my cheek bone where there is still a piece of shrapnel in my face.

I've got an Enfield MkIV .303 that was in god awful shape when I paid 100 bucks for it. I cleaned it up (muttering imprecations and praying to the gunsmith's god for "someone" to have an unfortunately lethal negligent discharge while I scrubbed rust), steamed the wood and replaced the (missing) original WW2 sniper scope with a modern upgrade. It'd had fired tens of thousands of rounds in and after WW2, and after a little TLC, it once again performs like a champ.

Classic Weapons are always an amazing find... My dad found himsel a Japanese 6.5mm Arasaka rifle... what a beauty once it was cleaned up a bit... and boy was it accurate...

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[Tachi]

Classic Weapons are always an amazing find... My dad found himsel a Japanese 6.5mm Arasaka rifle... what a beauty once it was cleaned up a bit... and boy was it accurate...

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Must have been from one of the early production runs, a good find. The later runs didn't have the quality control of the early runs. The Japanese guns from late in the war were garbage, almost as likely to kill you as the person you were aiming at, which is odd coming from the Japanese, especially since they had the chrysanthemum stamp to show that they were "the property of the Emperor". Just goes to show how desperate they were getting toward the end of the war.

[Tymeaus Jalynsfe...]

Must have been from one of the early production runs, a good find. The later runs didn't have the quality control of the early runs. The Japanese guns from late in the war were garbage, almost as likely to kill you as the person you were aiming at, which is odd coming from the Japanese, especially since they had the chrysanthemum stamp to show that they were "the property of the Emperor". Just goes to show how desperate they were getting toward the end of the war.

It does indeed look like it is from earlier... and yes, later models are sad in comparison...

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