Are Spirits Immune to Toxins? Options

[Ascalaphus]

Not sure if you where aware but I was just being silly... whatever...
But just because the doses would be different does not mean they would be immune. A tranq that can put down a human "can" put down a larger animal if the dose is scaled up to match. We are talking about immunities not dosages. They are not the same.

I was trying to point out that common sense isn't optional. Determining how toxins dosed for metahumans can affect critters also demands the application of common sense.

As for the vector argument, Skin has multiple definitions. For instance, metal has skin. Which, I suppose, could keep a full cyber-body replacement char from being immune to contact toxins. But "skin" means the outer layer of something, not just the epidermal organ.

...And then we're definitely in the land of Twisting The Meaning Of The Words.

[toturi]

I think there are 3 ways that something can be effectively immune to toxins -
1) An outright Immunity to Toxins (unconditional)
2) Impervious to the vector/s of specific toxins (conditional upon vector)
3) Unable to be affected due to not fitting the description of specific toxins (conditional upon toxin description)

Any of the above should render something functionally immune to toxins.

[Draco18s]

3) Unable to be affected due to not fitting the description of specific toxins (conditional upon toxin description)

The question here would be "do spirits take damage from [toxin] (its listed effect) even if they have none of the organs associated with the description [eg vomiting]?"

[darthmord]

Reading the shadowtalk in SM it seems possession/inhabitation spirits (Including those involved with Tempo) are given toxin, pathogen resistance simple because they end up with a nervous system. This would leave me to believe those with simply a materialized form would not require the resistance due to a natural immunity (ie no nervous system). It just seems like such a clear case of common sense. Theres also a case of spirits while not being affected by btl, pretending they are. Perception and assumption are a big part of SR's spirituality. I certainly could see a spirit mimicking the effects of a given drug or toxin.

One of the fluff examples talks about a runner who sold a free spirit a bunch of BTLs and the spirit paid him, thanked him, and proceeded to go through the motions of slotting them. The runner commented on it being quite wierd.